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{{Infobox game/row/reception|Metacritic|persona-3-reload|89}}
 
{{Infobox game/row/reception|Metacritic|persona-3-reload|89}}
 
{{Infobox game/row/reception|OpenCritic|16094/persona-3-reload|89}}
 
{{Infobox game/row/reception|OpenCritic|16094/persona-3-reload|89}}
{{Infobox game/row/reception|IGDB|persona-3-reload|}}
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{{Infobox game/row/reception|IGDB|persona-3-reload|92}}
 
|taxonomy    =
 
|taxonomy    =
 
{{Infobox game/row/taxonomy/monetization      | One-time game purchase, DLC }}
 
{{Infobox game/row/taxonomy/monetization      | One-time game purchase, DLC }}
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{{Infobox game/row/taxonomy/series            | Persona }}
 
{{Infobox game/row/taxonomy/series            | Persona }}
 
|steam appid  = 2161700
 
|steam appid  = 2161700
|steam appid side = 909595, 909594, 2517310, 2517300, 2334536, 2334535, 2334534, 2334533, 2334532, 2334531, 2334530, 2322840
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|steam appid side = 909595, 909594, 2517310, 2517300, 2334536, 2334535, 2334534, 2334533, 2334532, 2334531, 2334530, 2322840, 2689210
 
|gogcom id    =  
 
|gogcom id    =  
 
|gogcom id side =  
 
|gogcom id side =  
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|release history  = The game was released on February 2, 2024 on the [[Microsoft Store]] and [[Steam]], following an announcement in June 2023. While the game includes improvements to the gameplay and presentation to make it more alike ''[[Persona 5 Royal]]'', it also forgoes content that was introduced in the previous re-releases of ''Persona 3'', ''Persona 3 FES'' and ''[[Persona 3 Portable]]''.<ref>{{Refurl|url=https://www.ign.com/articles/persona-3-reload-wont-include-content-from-fes-or-portable-including-the-female-protagonist|title=IGN - Persona 3 Reload Won't Include Content from FES or Portable, Including the Female Protagonist|date=2024-02-03}}</ref>
 
|release history  = The game was released on February 2, 2024 on the [[Microsoft Store]] and [[Steam]], following an announcement in June 2023. While the game includes improvements to the gameplay and presentation to make it more alike ''[[Persona 5 Royal]]'', it also forgoes content that was introduced in the previous re-releases of ''Persona 3'', ''Persona 3 FES'' and ''[[Persona 3 Portable]]''.<ref>{{Refurl|url=https://www.ign.com/articles/persona-3-reload-wont-include-content-from-fes-or-portable-including-the-female-protagonist|title=IGN - Persona 3 Reload Won't Include Content from FES or Portable, Including the Female Protagonist|date=2024-02-03}}</ref>
  
|current state    = ''{{PAGENAME}}'' was highly praised as a very faithful remake. While the game natively does not support some features such as ultra-widescreen display, workarounds were made available by the modding community shortly following release.
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|current state    = Upon release, ''{{PAGENAME}}'' was praised as a faithful, yet improved, remake of the original ''Persona 3''.<ref>{{Refurl|url=https://www.pcgamesn.com/persona-3-reload/review|title=PCGamesN - Persona 3 Reload review – a high-caliber JRPG remake|date=2024-02-12|snippet=I’ve played other versions since, but none truly brought me back to that first time. I’m happy to report that Persona 3 Reload captures the magic while adding clever new mechanics to streamline the experience.}}</ref><ref>{{Refurl|url=https://www.ign.com/articles/persona-3-reload-review|title=IGN - Persona 3 Reload Review|date=2024-02-12}}</ref> While the game natively does not support some features such as ultra-widescreen display, fixes were made available by the modding community shortly following release.
 
}}
 
}}
  
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|sponsored                  =  
 
|sponsored                  =  
 
|subscription                =  
 
|subscription                =  
|subscription gaming service =  
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|subscription gaming service = Available via [[List of PC Game Pass games|Xbox Game Pass for PC]].
 
}}
 
}}
  
 
{{DLC|
 
{{DLC|
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{{ii}} The '''Expansion Pass''' DLC is free-to-own for Microsoft Game Pass Ultimate subscribers until 31 January 2025.<ref>{{Refurl|url=https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2024/03/06/xbox-partner-preview-persona-3-reloaded/|title=Xbox Wire - Xbox Partner Preview - Personal 3 Reload Expansion Pass Detailed|snippet=Persona 3 Reload: Expansion Pass is coming on March 12 to Xbox Series X|S, Xbox One, and PC and will be available to Xbox Game Pass Ultimate users for free as part of the Perks program.|date=2024-03-12}}</ref><ref>{{Refurl|url=https://twitter.com/MauroNL3/status/1767529545857392647|title=MauroNL3 on X, 12 March 2024|snippet=The Persona 3 Reload: Expansion Pass will be free for Xbox Game Pass Ultimate subscribers until January 31, 2025.|date=2024-03-12}}</ref>
 
{{DLC/row| Persona 4 Golden BGM Set | Adds music tracks from ''[[Persona 4 Golden]]''. Only available for pre-orders. | Windows}}
 
{{DLC/row| Persona 4 Golden BGM Set | Adds music tracks from ''[[Persona 4 Golden]]''. Only available for pre-orders. | Windows}}
 
{{DLC/row| Persona 4 Golden Persona Set | Adds additional Personas from ''Persona 4 Golden''. | Windows }}
 
{{DLC/row| Persona 4 Golden Persona Set | Adds additional Personas from ''Persona 4 Golden''. | Windows }}
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{{DLC/row| Persona 5 Royal Shujin Academy Costume Set | Adds character costumes based on the school uniforms seen in ''Persona 5 Royal''. | Windows }}
 
{{DLC/row| Persona 5 Royal Shujin Academy Costume Set | Adds character costumes based on the school uniforms seen in ''Persona 5 Royal''. | Windows }}
 
{{DLC/row| Persona 5 Royal Phantom Thieves Costume Set | Adds character costumes based on the Phantom Thieves outfits seen in ''Persona 5 Royal''. | Windows }}
 
{{DLC/row| Persona 5 Royal Phantom Thieves Costume Set | Adds character costumes based on the Phantom Thieves outfits seen in ''Persona 5 Royal''. | Windows }}
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{{DLC/row| Expansion Pass | Includes exclusive music tracks from ''[[Persona 4 Golden]]'' and ''[[Persona 5 Royal]]'' as well as upcoming DLC '''Velvet Costume & BGM Set''' and expansion pack '''Episode Aigis -The Answer-'''. | Windows }}
 
}}
 
}}
  
 
==Essential improvements==
 
==Essential improvements==
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===[https://github.com/Lyall/P3RFix/releases Lyall's P3RFix]===
 +
{{++}} Allows to skip intro videos, set a manual framerate lock, uncap menu framerate, set custom resolution scaling, fixes menu resolution, implements ultrawidescreen support & more.
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===Skip intro videos===
 
===Skip intro videos===
{{Fixbox|description=Use [https://github.com/Lyall/P3RFix/releases Lyall's P3RFix]|ref=<ref>{{Refcheck|user=Shadowstealer7|date=2024-02-09}}</ref>|fix=
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{{Fixbox|description=Use [[#Lyall.27s_P3RFix|Lyall's P3RFix]]|ref=<ref>{{Refcheck|user=Shadowstealer7|date=2024-02-09}}</ref>|fix=
{{ii}} By default, the mod will skip intro logos, but can be configured to also skip the network prompt and open the game directly to load a save.
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{{ii}} By default, the mod will skip intro logos and the opening sequence, but can be configured to not skip one of these or additionally also skip the main menu and go directly to the save selection.
# Run the game at least once with the mod installed.
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{{ii}} Enabling this will attempt to enable network features by default.
# Go to {{folder|{{p|game}}\P3R\Binaries\Win64\}} and open {{file|P3RFix.ini}}.
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# Open {{file|P3RFix.ini}}.
# Configure the <code>SkipNetwork</code> and <code>SkipToLoadSave</code> lines as desired.
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# Configure the <code>SkipLogos</code> and <code>SkipTo</code> lines as desired.
 
# Save and close the file.
 
# Save and close the file.
 
}}
 
}}
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|multimonitor notes        =  
 
|multimonitor notes        =  
 
|ultrawidescreen            = hackable
 
|ultrawidescreen            = hackable
|ultrawidescreen notes      = Aspect ratios wider than 16:9 are {{term|pillarboxed}}. Use [https://github.com/Lyall/P3RFix/releases Lyall's P3RFix] to remove.
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|ultrawidescreen notes      = AAspect ratios wider than 16:9 are {{term|pillarboxed}}. Use [[#Lyall.27s_P3RFix|Lyall's P3RFix]] to remove the pillarboxing in gameplay and fix HUD, FOV and Aspect Ratio. Use [https://gamebanana.com/mods/494171 No Cinematic Bars] to remove {{term|letterboxing}} in cutscenes.
 
|4k ultra hd                = true
 
|4k ultra hd                = true
 
|4k ultra hd notes          =  
 
|4k ultra hd notes          =  
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|anisotropic notes          = 8x<ref>{{Refcheck|user=Sandemc|date=2024-02-02|comment=Checked by pulling the <code>r.MaxAnisotropy</code> value from the console.}}</ref>
 
|anisotropic notes          = 8x<ref>{{Refcheck|user=Sandemc|date=2024-02-02|comment=Checked by pulling the <code>r.MaxAnisotropy</code> value from the console.}}</ref>
 
|antialiasing              = always on
 
|antialiasing              = always on
|antialiasing notes        = Forced [[TAA]].<br>[[SSAA]] up to 200% available via Rendering Scale setting in increments of 25.
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|antialiasing notes        = Forced [[TAA]].<br>[[SSAA]] up to 200% available via Rendering Scale setting in increments of 25. Custom scale can be set with [[#Lyall.27s_P3RFix|Lyall's P3RFix]].
 
|upscaling                  = false
 
|upscaling                  = false
 
|upscaling tech            =  
 
|upscaling tech            =  
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|60 fps notes              =  
 
|60 fps notes              =  
 
|120 fps                    = true
 
|120 fps                    = true
|120 fps notes              = Frame rate can be limited to 30, 60 or 120 FPS. Menus are locked to 60 FPS, and some menu animations are tied to the frame rate.
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|120 fps notes              = Frame rate can be limited to 30, 60 or 120 FPS. Menus are locked to 60 FPS, and some menu animations are tied to the frame rate. Some dialogue may be delayed on the 120 FPS mode.<ref>{{Refcheck|user=Sandemc|date=2024-02-21|comment=Checked by friends aswell, the dialogue lines have a little delay before they start playing the voiceline, which doesn't happen on the 60 FPS mode.}}</ref><br>Use [[#Lyall.27s_P3RFix|Lyall's P3RFix]] to remove the lock in the menus, set a custom framerate lock and fix the delays.<ref>{{Refcheck|user=Sandemc|date=2024-02-14}}</ref>
 
|hdr                        = false
 
|hdr                        = false
 
|hdr notes                  =  
 
|hdr notes                  =  
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}}
 
}}
  
==Reflections==
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===Ambient Occlusion (AO)===
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{{Image|Persona 3 Reload - Grid AO.png|The grid pattern from the low-quality SSAO}}
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{{ii}} By default, the game uses lowest quality SSAO, which results in grid-like patterns. That is intentional, however, some users may be sensitive to this kind of effect.
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{{Fixbox|description=Force higher quality SSAO|ref=<ref>{{Refcheck|user=Sandemc|date=2024-03-14}}</ref>|fix=
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# Download [https://github.com/UE4SS-RE/RE-UE4SS/releases UE4SS] and unpack it to {{Folder|{{P|game}}\P3R\Binaries\Win64}} (or {{Folder|{{P|game}}\Content\P3R\Binaries\WinGDK}} on the Microsoft Store version).
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# Extract [https://community.pcgamingwiki.com/files/file/2926-persona-3-reload-force-higher-quality-ssao/ this archive] to the same folder.
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'''Notes'''
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{{ii}} If already using UE4SS for another script, do not extract <code>mods.txt</code> and instead append <code>P3RAO : 1</code> to the existing file.
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}}
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===Reflections===
 
{{ii}} If RT Reflections are enabled, the game still falls back to SSR Reflections in places such as Tartarus.<ref name="PerSceneRef"/>
 
{{ii}} If RT Reflections are enabled, the game still falls back to SSR Reflections in places such as Tartarus.<ref name="PerSceneRef"/>
 
{{ii}} Some places that have reflections with Ray Tracing, don't have reflections at all with RT Reflections off.<ref>{{Refurl|url=https://www.nexusmods.com/persona3reload/mods/7?tab=description|title=SSR Only Instead RT Reflections at Persona 3 Reload Nexus|date=2024-02-10}}</ref>
 
{{ii}} Some places that have reflections with Ray Tracing, don't have reflections at all with RT Reflections off.<ref>{{Refurl|url=https://www.nexusmods.com/persona3reload/mods/7?tab=description|title=SSR Only Instead RT Reflections at Persona 3 Reload Nexus|date=2024-02-10}}</ref>
 
{{Fixbox|description=Force RT Reflections everywhere|ref={{cn|date=2024-02-10|reason=Sandemc: Unchecked, but people on the Nexus page referenced seem to point out that this should work}}|fix=
 
{{Fixbox|description=Force RT Reflections everywhere|ref={{cn|date=2024-02-10|reason=Sandemc: Unchecked, but people on the Nexus page referenced seem to point out that this should work}}|fix=
# Download [https://github.com/UE4SS-RE/RE-UE4SS/releases UE4SS] and unpack it to <code>{{P|game}}\P3R\Binaries\Win64</code> (or <code>{{P|game}}\Content\P3R\Binaries\WinGDK</code> on the Microsoft Store version).
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# Download [https://github.com/UE4SS-RE/RE-UE4SS/releases UE4SS] and unpack it to {{Folder|{{P|game}}\P3R\Binaries\Win64}} (or {{Folder|{{P|game}}\Content\P3R\Binaries\WinGDK}} on the Microsoft Store version).
# In the same folder, open the new <code>Mods</code> folder, in there, create a new folder called <code>P3RG</code> and in it, another folder called <code>Scripts</code>.
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# Extract [https://community.pcgamingwiki.com/files/file/2925-persona-3-reload-force-rt-reflections-everywhere/ this archive] to the same folder.
# In the <code>Scripts</code> folder, create a file called <code>main.lua</code>.
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# Open the file with a text editor and paste the script from [https://pastebin.com/8NH0J8q4 here].
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'''Notes'''
# Save the file.
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{{ii}} If already using UE4SS for another script, do not extract <code>mods.txt</code> and instead append <code>P3RRT : 1</code> to the existing file.
 
}}
 
}}
 
{{Fixbox|description=Use SSR where RT is applicable{{note|Disabling Reflections entirely also disables reflections in places that only have reflections with RT only.<br>Does not work if the RT Reflections are off.}}|ref={{cn|date=2024-02-10|reason=Sandemc: Unchecked, but people on the Nexus page referenced seem to point out that this should work}}|fix=
 
{{Fixbox|description=Use SSR where RT is applicable{{note|Disabling Reflections entirely also disables reflections in places that only have reflections with RT only.<br>Does not work if the RT Reflections are off.}}|ref={{cn|date=2024-02-10|reason=Sandemc: Unchecked, but people on the Nexus page referenced seem to point out that this should work}}|fix=
# Go to game's config folder.
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<ol>
# Open <code>Engine.ini</code>
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<li> Go to game's config folder.</li>
# Add following lines at the end:
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<li> Open {{File|Engine.ini}}.</li>
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<li> Add following lines at the end:
 
<pre>
 
<pre>
 
[SystemSettings]
 
[SystemSettings]
 
r.RayTracing.Reflections.Hybrid=1
 
r.RayTracing.Reflections.Hybrid=1
</pre>
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</pre></li>
4. Save the file.
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<li> Save the file.</li>
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</ol>
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}}
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{{Fixbox|description=Disable RT per-device{{note|As cloud saves in this game also shares config files, this is useful for people who cross-play on a PC/Xbox and a portable device, as it allows to disable RT only on one device and keep it on the other, purely as a convenience factor.}}|ref={{cn|date=2024-02-10|reason=Sandemc: Unchecked}}|fix=
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<ol>
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<li> Go to game's config folder.</li>
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<li> Open {{File|Engine.ini}}.</li>
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<li> Add following lines at the end:
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<pre>
 +
[SystemSettings]
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r.RayTracing=0
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</pre></li>
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<li> Save the file.</li>
 +
</ol>
 
}}
 
}}
  
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|closed captions          = false
 
|closed captions          = false
 
|closed captions notes    =  
 
|closed captions notes    =  
|mute on focus lost        = always on
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|mute on focus lost        = hackable
|mute on focus lost notes  =  
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|mute on focus lost notes  = By default, game pauses when out of focus. Use [[#Lyall.27s_P3RFix|Lyall's P3RFix]] to disable.<ref>{{Refcheck|user=Sandemc|date=2024-02-21}}</ref>
 
|eax support              =  
 
|eax support              =  
 
|eax support notes        =  
 
|eax support notes        =  
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===Shader compilation stutter===
 
===Shader compilation stutter===
 
{{ii}} The game may noticeably stutter during gameplay.<ref>{{Refurl|url=https://np.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/1agvvrg/persona_3_reload_is_now_available_on_steam/kojv1gf/|title=Reddit - /r/PCGaming - Comment on 'Persona 3 Reload is now available on Steam'|date=2024-02-03}}</ref><ref>{{Refurl|url=https://steamcommunity.com/app/2161700/discussions/0/4206993388793729354/|title=Steam Community - Persona 3 Reload - 'Unreal Stutter'|date=2024-02-03}}</ref><ref>{{Refcheck|user=Shadowstealer7|date=2024-02-04|comment=Noticeably occurs during battles and using moves for the first time}}</ref>
 
{{ii}} The game may noticeably stutter during gameplay.<ref>{{Refurl|url=https://np.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/1agvvrg/persona_3_reload_is_now_available_on_steam/kojv1gf/|title=Reddit - /r/PCGaming - Comment on 'Persona 3 Reload is now available on Steam'|date=2024-02-03}}</ref><ref>{{Refurl|url=https://steamcommunity.com/app/2161700/discussions/0/4206993388793729354/|title=Steam Community - Persona 3 Reload - 'Unreal Stutter'|date=2024-02-03}}</ref><ref>{{Refcheck|user=Shadowstealer7|date=2024-02-04|comment=Noticeably occurs during battles and using moves for the first time}}</ref>
 
===Frame rate in menus locks to 30 FPS===
 
{{ii}} On some hardware configurations, the frame rate of menus locks to 30 FPS when the frame rate cap has been set to 120 FPS in the graphics options, instead of operating at 60 FPS as intended.<ref>{{Refcheck|user=Sandemc|date=2024-02-02|comment=Having the issue on my end, with and without VSync on}}</ref><ref>{{Refurl|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/persona3reload/comments/1agwi7g/game_framerate/|title=Reddit - /r/Persona3Reload - 'Game framerate'|date=2024-02-02}}</ref><ref>{{Refurl|url=https://steamcommunity.com/app/2161700/discussions/0/4206993388793096605/?ctp=17|title=Steam Community - Persona 3 Reload - Comment on 'Official Bug Report Thread'|date=2024-02-02|snippet=120hz frame cap incorrectly uses 30hz in menus and takes a second to get up to speed afterward.}}</ref>
 
  
 
===Crashing on startup===
 
===Crashing on startup===
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{{Fixbox|description=Adjust display aspect ratio to 16:9|ref=<ref>{{Refurl|url=https://steamcommunity.com/app/2161700/discussions/0/4206993388793096605/?ctp=5#c4206993639696978744|title=Steam Community - Persona 3 Reload - Comment on 'Official Bug Report Thread'|date=2024-02-04| snippet=I was able to verify that a 4:3 aspect ratio resolution is indeed the culprit of a startup crash, changing my 1600x1200 monitor to 1920x1080 mode fixed the issue! }}</ref>|fix=
 
{{Fixbox|description=Adjust display aspect ratio to 16:9|ref=<ref>{{Refurl|url=https://steamcommunity.com/app/2161700/discussions/0/4206993388793096605/?ctp=5#c4206993639696978744|title=Steam Community - Persona 3 Reload - Comment on 'Official Bug Report Thread'|date=2024-02-04| snippet=I was able to verify that a 4:3 aspect ratio resolution is indeed the culprit of a startup crash, changing my 1600x1200 monitor to 1920x1080 mode fixed the issue! }}</ref>|fix=
 
}}
 
}}
 
===Low resolution interface elements===
 
{{ii}} Running the game at higher resolutions appears to leave the game's interface elements running at a lower resolution.<ref>{{Refurl|url=https://steamcommunity.com/app/2161700/discussions/0/4206993388794967197/|title=Steam Community - Persona 3 Reload - 'Menu/UI element running at lower resolution'|date=2024-02-04}}</ref><ref>{{Refcheck|user=Shadowstealer7|date=2024-02-04|comment=Have personally noticed this running at 1440p+ and numerous mentions along these lines in the official bug thread on Steam Community, far too many to list here.}}</ref>
 
  
 
==Issues fixed==
 
==Issues fixed==
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{{ii}} Settings, such as graphics options, are tied to the current save game and will not persist until the game has been saved.
 
{{ii}} Settings, such as graphics options, are tied to the current save game and will not persist until the game has been saved.
 
{{Fixbox|description=Save the game after making changes to settings|ref=<ref>{{Refcheck|user=Sandemc|date=2024-02-02|comment=This isn't exactly an 'issue', but incase some people end up being confused.}}</ref>}}
 
{{Fixbox|description=Save the game after making changes to settings|ref=<ref>{{Refcheck|user=Sandemc|date=2024-02-02|comment=This isn't exactly an 'issue', but incase some people end up being confused.}}</ref>}}
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===Frame rate in menus locks to 30 FPS===
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{{ii}} On some hardware configurations, the frame rate of menus locks to 30 FPS when the frame rate cap has been set to 120 FPS in the graphics options, instead of operating at 60 FPS as intended.<ref>{{Refcheck|user=Sandemc|date=2024-02-02|comment=Having the issue on my end, with and without VSync on}}</ref><ref>{{Refurl|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/persona3reload/comments/1agwi7g/game_framerate/|title=Reddit - /r/Persona3Reload - 'Game framerate'|date=2024-02-02}}</ref><ref>{{Refurl|url=https://steamcommunity.com/app/2161700/discussions/0/4206993388793096605/?ctp=17|title=Steam Community - Persona 3 Reload - Comment on 'Official Bug Report Thread'|date=2024-02-02|snippet=120hz frame cap incorrectly uses 30hz in menus and takes a second to get up to speed afterward.}}</ref>
 +
{{Fixbox|description=Use [[#Lyall.27s_P3RFix|Lyall's P3RFix]]|ref=<ref>{{Refcheck|user=Sandemc|date=2024-02-14}}</ref>}}
 +
 +
===Low resolution interface elements===
 +
{{ii}} Running the game at higher resolutions appears to leave the game's interface elements running at a lower resolution.<ref>{{Refurl|url=https://steamcommunity.com/app/2161700/discussions/0/4206993388794967197/|title=Steam Community - Persona 3 Reload - 'Menu/UI element running at lower resolution'|date=2024-02-04}}</ref><ref>{{Refcheck|user=Shadowstealer7|date=2024-02-04|comment=Have personally noticed this running at 1440p+ and numerous mentions along these lines in the official bug thread on Steam Community, far too many to list here.}}</ref>
 +
{{Fixbox|description=Use [[#Lyall.27s_P3RFix|Lyall's P3RFix]]|ref=<ref>{{Refcheck|user=Sandemc|date=2024-02-21}}</ref>|fix=
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'''Notes'''
 +
{{ii}} Can also be used for supersampling to get rid of the menu jaggies by changing the <code>Multiplier</code> option in the <code>[Render Texture Resolution]</code> section.
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}}
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===Random framerate drops/stuttering for a short period===
 +
{{ii}} The game randomly drops framerate to an unpleasant level in the middle of gameplay. Cause is unknown.<ref>{{Refcheck|user=Sandemc|date=2024-02-17|comment=Happens to me with a GTX1650 and my friend with an AMD GPU - especially in 3rd Tartarus block, for some reason}}</ref>
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{{Fixbox|description=[https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5157/~/after-updating-to-nvidia-game-ready-driver-461.09-or-newer%2C-some-desktop-apps Disable multiplane overlay]|ref={{cn|date=2024-02-17|reason=Sandemc: my friend claimed it works, but i never really checked myself}}}}
  
 
==Other information==
 
==Other information==
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===Mods===
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<!-- If you want to add mods, suggest it in Discussions first so we all avoid edit warring. Thank you. -->
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{{mm}} [https://gamebanana.com/games/18557 GameBanana]
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{{mm}} [https://www.nexusmods.com/persona3reload NexusMods]
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====[https://gamebanana.com/mods/494020 Persona 3 Reload Essentials]====
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{{++}} Mod loader with miscellaneous improvements to the modding possibilities.
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====[https://gamebanana.com/mods/497971 Use Non-VP9 Movies]====
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{{++}} Makes the game use the uncompressed, non-VP9, version of movies.
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====[https://gamebanana.com/mods/497473 Full DLC Rework]====
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{{++}} Adjusts the Personas from the DLC to make all of their skills an appropriate power relative to the level that they can be fused at.
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====[https://gamebanana.com/mods/493793 Controller UI Overhaul]====
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{{++}} Improves the game's controller button prompts, with a focus on accuracy and legibility.
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====[https://gamebanana.com/mods/496363 AI Tactics Fixes]====
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{{++}} Fixes AI's in-combat behavior to make it more logical for the given situation and fixes regressions, that weren't present in [https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Persona_5_Royal Persona 5 Royal].
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====[https://gamebanana.com/mods/497891 Theurgy Description Fix]====
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{{++}} Reworks the descriptions of everyone's Theurgy Gauge characteristic to make them clearer and more concise.
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{{++}} Addresses a mistranslation of Akihiko and Mitsuru's Theurgies.
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====[https://gamebanana.com/mods/495559 Bond Growth Wording Fix]====
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{{++}} Fixes the wording for when a Social Link isn't ready to level up, which originally may imply that you cannot progress the social link at the current point in the story.
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Revision as of 14:52, 16 March 2024

This page is for the 2024 remake of the original PlayStation 2 game. For the re-release of the reworked Portable version, see Persona 3 Portable.

Persona 3 Reload
Persona 3 Reload cover
Developers
Atlus
P-Studio
Windows Xeen[1]
Publishers
Sega
Engines
Unreal Engine 4[Note 1]
Release dates
Windows February 2, 2024
Reception
Metacritic 89
OpenCritic 89
IGDB 92
Taxonomy
Monetization One-time game purchase, DLC
Modes Singleplayer
Pacing Turn-based
Perspectives Cinematic camera, Third-person
Controls Direct control, Menu-based
Genres JRPG
Art styles Anime
Themes Japan, Supernatural
Series Persona
Persona 3 Reload on HowLongToBeat
Persona 3 Reload on IGDB
Persona 3 Reload guide on StrategyWiki
Persona 3 Reload on MobyGames
Persona 3 Reload on Wikipedia
Persona
Subseries of Megami Tensei
Megami Ibunroku Persona 1999
Persona 4 Golden 2020
Persona 5 Strikers 2021
Persona 4 Arena Ultimax 2022
Persona 5 Royal 2022
Persona 3 Portable 2023
Megami Ibunroku Persona: Ikuu no Tou Hen 2023
Persona 5 Tactica 2023
Persona 3 Reload 2024

Persona 3 Reload is a JRPG in the Persona series developed by Atlus and published by Sega. It serves as a remake of the 2006 PlayStation 2 game Persona 3 and is also the first game in the Persona series to use the Unreal Engine.[3]

The game was released on February 2, 2024 on the Microsoft Store and Steam, following an announcement in June 2023. While the game includes improvements to the gameplay and presentation to make it more alike Persona 5 Royal, it also forgoes content that was introduced in the previous re-releases of Persona 3, Persona 3 FES and Persona 3 Portable.[4]

Upon release, Persona 3 Reload was praised as a faithful, yet improved, remake of the original Persona 3.[5][6] While the game natively does not support some features such as ultra-widescreen display, fixes were made available by the modding community shortly following release.

General information

Steam Community Discussions

Availability

Source DRM Notes Keys OS
Gamesplanet logo.svg
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Digital Deluxe Edition and Digital Premium Edition also available.
Windows
Humble Store
Icon overlay.png
Digital Deluxe Edition and Digital Premium Edition also available.
Windows
Microsoft Store
Microsoft Store
Xbox Play Anywhere.
Included with Xbox Game Pass for PC.
Digital Deluxe Edition and Digital Premium Edition also available.
Windows
Steam
Icon overlay.png
Digital Deluxe Edition and Digital Premium Edition also available.
Windows
All versions require Denuvo Anti-Tamper DRM.[7][8]

Version differences

Pre-orders included the Persona 4 Golden BGM Set.
Digital Deluxe Edition includes the Digital Artbook and Digital Soundtrack applications.
Digital Premium Edition includes the Digital Artbook and Digital Soundtrack applications, and content sets containing music, costumes and Personas from Persona 4 Golden and Persona 5 Royal.

Monetization

Type Notes
DLC Several cosmetic downloadable content packs are available for purchase.
One-time game purchase The game requires an upfront purchase to access.
Subscription gaming service Available via Xbox Game Pass for PC.

DLC and expansion packs

The Expansion Pass DLC is free-to-own for Microsoft Game Pass Ultimate subscribers until 31 January 2025.[9][10]
Name Notes
Persona 4 Golden BGM Set Adds music tracks from Persona 4 Golden. Only available for pre-orders.
Windows
Persona 4 Golden Persona Set Adds additional Personas from Persona 4 Golden.
Windows
Persona 4 Golden Yasogami High Costume Set Adds character costumes based on the school uniforms seen in Persona 4 Golden.
Windows
Persona 5 Royal BGM Set Adds music tracks from Persona 5 Royal.
Windows
Persona 5 Royal Persona Set 1 Adds additional Personas from Persona 5 Royal.
Windows
Persona 5 Royal Persona Set 2 Adds additional Personas from Persona 5 Royal.
Windows
Persona 5 Royal Shujin Academy Costume Set Adds character costumes based on the school uniforms seen in Persona 5 Royal.
Windows
Persona 5 Royal Phantom Thieves Costume Set Adds character costumes based on the Phantom Thieves outfits seen in Persona 5 Royal.
Windows
Expansion Pass Includes exclusive music tracks from Persona 4 Golden and Persona 5 Royal as well as upcoming DLC Velvet Costume & BGM Set and expansion pack Episode Aigis -The Answer-.
Windows

Essential improvements

Lyall's P3RFix

Allows to skip intro videos, set a manual framerate lock, uncap menu framerate, set custom resolution scaling, fixes menu resolution, implements ultrawidescreen support & more.

Skip intro videos

Use Lyall's P3RFix[11]
By default, the mod will skip intro logos and the opening sequence, but can be configured to not skip one of these or additionally also skip the main menu and go directly to the save selection.
Enabling this will attempt to enable network features by default.
  1. Open P3RFix.ini.
  2. Configure the SkipLogos and SkipTo lines as desired.
  3. Save and close the file.

Game data

Configuration file(s) location

System Location
Microsoft Store %LOCALAPPDATA%\P3R\Saved\Config\WinGDK
Steam %LOCALAPPDATA%\P3R\Saved\Config\WindowsNoEditor
Steam Play (Linux) <SteamLibrary-folder>/steamapps/compatdata/2161700/pfx/[Note 2]

Save game data location

System Location
Microsoft Store %LOCALAPPDATA%\Packages\SEGAofAmericaInc.L0cb6b3aea_s751p9cej88mt\SystemAppData\wgs\<user-id>\
Steam %APPDATA%\SEGA\P3R\Steam\<user-id>\
Steam Play (Linux) <SteamLibrary-folder>/steamapps/compatdata/2161700/pfx/[Note 2]

Save game cloud syncing

System Native Notes
Steam Cloud
Xbox Cloud

Video

Display settings
Display settings
Graphics settings
Graphics settings

Graphics feature State Notes
Widescreen resolution
Multi-monitor
Ultra-widescreen
AAspect ratios wider than 16:9 are pillarboxed. Use Lyall's P3RFix to remove the pillarboxing in gameplay and fix HUD, FOV and Aspect Ratio. Use No Cinematic Bars to remove letterboxing in cutscenes.
4K Ultra HD
Field of view (FOV)
Windowed
Borderless fullscreen windowed
Anisotropic filtering (AF)
8x[12]
Anti-aliasing (AA)
Forced TAA.
SSAA up to 200% available via Rendering Scale setting in increments of 25. Custom scale can be set with Lyall's P3RFix.
High-fidelity upscaling
See the glossary page for potential workarounds.
Vertical sync (Vsync)
60 FPS and 120+ FPS
Frame rate can be limited to 30, 60 or 120 FPS. Menus are locked to 60 FPS, and some menu animations are tied to the frame rate. Some dialogue may be delayed on the 120 FPS mode.[13]
Use Lyall's P3RFix to remove the lock in the menus, set a custom framerate lock and fix the delays.[14]
High dynamic range display (HDR)
See the engine page to force native HDR output, or the glossary page for other alternatives.
Ray tracing (RT)
Ray traced reflections set per scene.[15]
Labelled as Reflections in the game options.[16][17]
The game engine may allow for manual configuration of the game via its variables. See the Unreal Engine 4 page for more details.

Ambient Occlusion (AO)

The grid pattern from the low-quality SSAO
The grid pattern from the low-quality SSAO
By default, the game uses lowest quality SSAO, which results in grid-like patterns. That is intentional, however, some users may be sensitive to this kind of effect.
Force higher quality SSAO[18]
  1. Download UE4SS and unpack it to <path-to-game>\P3R\Binaries\Win64 (or <path-to-game>\Content\P3R\Binaries\WinGDK on the Microsoft Store version).
  2. Extract this archive to the same folder.

Notes

If already using UE4SS for another script, do not extract mods.txt and instead append P3RAO : 1 to the existing file.

Reflections

If RT Reflections are enabled, the game still falls back to SSR Reflections in places such as Tartarus.[15]
Some places that have reflections with Ray Tracing, don't have reflections at all with RT Reflections off.[19]
Force RT Reflections everywhere[citation needed]
  1. Download UE4SS and unpack it to <path-to-game>\P3R\Binaries\Win64 (or <path-to-game>\Content\P3R\Binaries\WinGDK on the Microsoft Store version).
  2. Extract this archive to the same folder.

Notes

If already using UE4SS for another script, do not extract mods.txt and instead append P3RRT : 1 to the existing file.
Use SSR where RT is applicable[Note 3][citation needed]
  1. Go to game's config folder.
  2. Open Engine.ini.
  3. Add following lines at the end:
    [SystemSettings]
    r.RayTracing.Reflections.Hybrid=1
    
  4. Save the file.
Disable RT per-device[Note 4][citation needed]
  1. Go to game's config folder.
  2. Open Engine.ini.
  3. Add following lines at the end:
    [SystemSettings]
    r.RayTracing=0
    
  4. Save the file.

Input

Game system settings
Game system settings

Keyboard and mouse State Notes
Remapping
Some buttons can not be remapped.
Mouse acceleration
Negative mouse acceleration is present when the camera is able to be adjusted.[20]
Mouse sensitivity
Mouse input in menus
Mouse Y-axis inversion
Controller
Controller support
Full controller support
Requires keyboard for text input.
Steam version requires Steam Input to be enabled.[21]
Controller remapping
Some buttons can not be remapped.
Controller sensitivity
Controller Y-axis inversion
Controller types
XInput-compatible controllers
Xbox button prompts
Listed as Type 3 button prompts.
Impulse Trigger vibration
PlayStation controllers
DualShock 4, DualSense
PlayStation button prompts
Listed as Type 1 button prompts for DualShock 4 and Type 2 button prompts for DualSense.
Light bar support
Adaptive trigger support
DualSense haptic feedback support
Connection modes Wired
Microsoft Store version does not support Bluetooth connection.[citation needed]
Generic/other controllers
Nintendo Switch Pro Controller is supported via Steam Input.
Button prompts
Listed as Type 4 button prompts.
Additional information
Controller hotplugging
Haptic feedback
Digital movement supported
Simultaneous controller+KB/M
Steam Input
Steam Input API support
Official controller preset(s)
Steam Controller button prompts
Uses Xbox controller prompts.

Audio

Audio settings
Audio settings

Audio feature State Notes
Separate volume controls
Separate sliders for Master, BGM, Sound Effects and Voice volume.
Surround sound
Subtitles
Closed captions
Mute on focus lost
By default, game pauses when out of focus. Use Lyall's P3RFix to disable.[22]
Royalty free audio

Localizations

On the Microsoft Store version, the interface language is tied to the current Windows System language.[23] See below for a workaround.
Language UI Audio Sub Notes
English
Simplified Chinese
Traditional Chinese
French
German
Italian
Japanese
Korean
Polish
Brazilian Portuguese
Russian
Spanish
Turkish

Changing interface language on the Microsoft Store version

On Steam, user can easily change the interface language by changing an option in Properties. On the Microsoft Store version, however, such an option does not exist.
Changing interface language via the commandline[24]
  1. Open <path-to-game>\Content\UE4CommandLine.txt.
  2. On the newline, add Culture= with the desired language code:
    en for English;
    zh-Hans for Simplified Chinese;
    zh-Hant for Traditional Chinese;
    fr for French;
    de for German;
    it for Italian;
    ja for Japanese;
    ko for Korean;
    pl for Polish;
    pt-BR for Brazilian Portuguese;
    ru for Russian;
    es for Spanish;
    es-419 for Latin American Spanish;
    tr for Turkish.
  3. Save the file. The game should use the inputted language now.

Issues unresolved

Shader compilation stutter

The game may noticeably stutter during gameplay.[25][26][27]

Crashing on startup

Disable secondary monitors.[28]
Adjust display aspect ratio to 16:9[29]

Issues fixed

Settings changes not persisting

Settings, such as graphics options, are tied to the current save game and will not persist until the game has been saved.
Save the game after making changes to settings[30]

Frame rate in menus locks to 30 FPS

On some hardware configurations, the frame rate of menus locks to 30 FPS when the frame rate cap has been set to 120 FPS in the graphics options, instead of operating at 60 FPS as intended.[31][32][33]
Use Lyall's P3RFix[34]

Low resolution interface elements

Running the game at higher resolutions appears to leave the game's interface elements running at a lower resolution.[35][36]
Use Lyall's P3RFix[37]

Notes

Can also be used for supersampling to get rid of the menu jaggies by changing the Multiplier option in the [Render Texture Resolution] section.

Random framerate drops/stuttering for a short period

The game randomly drops framerate to an unpleasant level in the middle of gameplay. Cause is unknown.[38]
Disable multiplane overlay[citation needed]

Other information

Mods

GameBanana
NexusMods

Persona 3 Reload Essentials

Mod loader with miscellaneous improvements to the modding possibilities.

Use Non-VP9 Movies

Makes the game use the uncompressed, non-VP9, version of movies.

Full DLC Rework

Adjusts the Personas from the DLC to make all of their skills an appropriate power relative to the level that they can be fused at.

Controller UI Overhaul

Improves the game's controller button prompts, with a focus on accuracy and legibility.

AI Tactics Fixes

Fixes AI's in-combat behavior to make it more logical for the given situation and fixes regressions, that weren't present in Persona 5 Royal.

Theurgy Description Fix

Reworks the descriptions of everyone's Theurgy Gauge characteristic to make them clearer and more concise.
Addresses a mistranslation of Akihiko and Mitsuru's Theurgies.

Bond Growth Wording Fix

Fixes the wording for when a Social Link isn't ready to level up, which originally may imply that you cannot progress the social link at the current point in the story.

API

Technical specs Supported Notes
Direct3D 12
Executable 32-bit 64-bit Notes
Windows

Middleware

Middleware Notes
Physics PhysX v3.4.0[39]
Audio Criware [40]

System requirements

Windows
Minimum Recommended
Operating system (OS) 10
Processor (CPU) Intel Core i5-2300
AMD FX-4350
System memory (RAM) 8 GB
Hard disk drive (HDD) 30 GB
Video card (GPU) Nvidia GeForce GTX 650 Ti
AMD Radeon HD 7850
2 GB of VRAM
DirectX 12 compatible
A 64-bit operating system is required.


Notes

  1. Unreal Engine 4 engine build: 4.27.2[2]
  2. 2.0 2.1 Notes regarding Steam Play (Linux) data:
  3. Disabling Reflections entirely also disables reflections in places that only have reflections with RT only.
    Does not work if the RT Reflections are off.
  4. As cloud saves in this game also shares config files, this is useful for people who cross-play on a PC/Xbox and a portable device, as it allows to disable RT only on one device and keep it on the other, purely as a convenience factor.

References

  1. Verified by User:Fds29 on 2024-02-02
    Xeen is credited for port development and localization implementation; two private branches pertaining to Xeen can be seen via SteamDB.
  2. Verified by User:Sandemc on 2024-02-03
  3. Persona Central - Persona 3 Reload Announced for Early 2024 Release - last accessed on 2024-02-03
  4. IGN - Persona 3 Reload Won't Include Content from FES or Portable, Including the Female Protagonist - last accessed on 2024-02-03
  5. PCGamesN - Persona 3 Reload review – a high-caliber JRPG remake - last accessed on 2024-02-12
    "I’ve played other versions since, but none truly brought me back to that first time. I’m happy to report that Persona 3 Reload captures the magic while adding clever new mechanics to streamline the experience."
  6. IGN - Persona 3 Reload Review - last accessed on 2024-02-12
  7. Persona 3 Reload on Steam - last accessed on 2024-01-01
    "Incorporates 3rd-party DRM: Denuvo"
  8. Verified by User:Shadowstealer7 on 2024-02-03
    Verified by scanning the game executable
  9. Xbox Wire - Xbox Partner Preview - Personal 3 Reload Expansion Pass Detailed - last accessed on 2024-03-12
    "Persona 3 Reload: Expansion Pass is coming on March 12 to Xbox Series X"
  10. MauroNL3 on X, 12 March 2024 - last accessed on 2024-03-12
    "The Persona 3 Reload: Expansion Pass will be free for Xbox Game Pass Ultimate subscribers until January 31, 2025."
  11. Verified by User:Shadowstealer7 on 2024-02-09
  12. Verified by User:Sandemc on 2024-02-02
    Checked by pulling the r.MaxAnisotropy value from the console.
  13. Verified by User:Sandemc on 2024-02-21
    Checked by friends aswell, the dialogue lines have a little delay before they start playing the voiceline, which doesn't happen on the 60 FPS mode.
  14. Verified by User:Sandemc on 2024-02-14
  15. 15.0 15.1 SSR Only Instead RT Reflections at Persona 3 Reload Nexus - Comment by ChaserJZX - last accessed on 2024-02-10
    "Using UUU you can see Atlus is using per scene settings, and when arriving in Tartarus the console shows "r.RayTracing.Reflections 0". In others it's the opposite."
  16. Verified by User:Sandemc on 2024-02-02
    Checked by friends with RT-capable GPU's: disabling the toggle only disables RT, SSR still works; if you don't have RT, the toggle doesn't do a thing.
  17. Verified by User:Shadowstealer7 on 2024-02-04
    Confirming with the UE4 console, this setting only toggles r.RayTracing.Reflections and does not touch any screen space reflection related config.
  18. Verified by User:Sandemc on 2024-03-14
  19. SSR Only Instead RT Reflections at Persona 3 Reload Nexus - last accessed on 2024-02-10
  20. Verified by User:Shadowstealer7 on 2024-02-03
  21. Verified by User:Shadowstealer7 on 2024-02-03
    DualSense controller does not work with Steam Input disabled.
  22. Verified by User:Sandemc on 2024-02-21
  23. Verified by User:Sandemc on 2024-02-02
  24. Verified by User:Sandemc on 2024-02-03
  25. Reddit - /r/PCGaming - Comment on 'Persona 3 Reload is now available on Steam' - last accessed on 2024-02-03
  26. Steam Community - Persona 3 Reload - 'Unreal Stutter' - last accessed on 2024-02-03
  27. Verified by User:Shadowstealer7 on 2024-02-04
    Noticeably occurs during battles and using moves for the first time
  28. Steam Community - Persona 3 Reload - Comment on 'Official Bug Report Thread' - last accessed on 2024-02-02
    "After unplugging all but my main monitor, the game would launch."
    "Had the exact same issue, using an older second monitor. Disabled it in windows Display settings and it no longer crashes on startup for now, thanks!
    "
  29. Steam Community - Persona 3 Reload - Comment on 'Official Bug Report Thread' - last accessed on 2024-02-04
    "I was able to verify that a 4:3 aspect ratio resolution is indeed the culprit of a startup crash, changing my 1600x1200 monitor to 1920x1080 mode fixed the issue!"
  30. Verified by User:Sandemc on 2024-02-02
    This isn't exactly an 'issue', but incase some people end up being confused.
  31. Verified by User:Sandemc on 2024-02-02
    Having the issue on my end, with and without VSync on
  32. Reddit - /r/Persona3Reload - 'Game framerate' - last accessed on 2024-02-02
  33. Steam Community - Persona 3 Reload - Comment on 'Official Bug Report Thread' - last accessed on 2024-02-02
    "120hz frame cap incorrectly uses 30hz in menus and takes a second to get up to speed afterward."
  34. Verified by User:Sandemc on 2024-02-14
  35. Steam Community - Persona 3 Reload - 'Menu/UI element running at lower resolution' - last accessed on 2024-02-04
  36. Verified by User:Shadowstealer7 on 2024-02-04
    Have personally noticed this running at 1440p+ and numerous mentions along these lines in the official bug thread on Steam Community, far too many to list here.
  37. Verified by User:Sandemc on 2024-02-21
  38. Verified by User:Sandemc on 2024-02-17
    Happens to me with a GTX1650 and my friend with an AMD GPU - especially in 3rd Tartarus block, for some reason
  39. Verified by User:Sandemc on 2024-02-02
    PhysX files are present and PHYSXINFO returns that it's using PhysX 3.4.0.
  40. Verified by User:M&m on 2024-02-04
    Game files (in FModel) contain a folder called CriData, containing USM and AWB files.