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Difference between revisions of "Romancing SaGa: Minstrel Song Remastered"

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{{Infobox game
 
{{Infobox game
|cover        = Romancing SaGa Minstrel Song Remastered cover.png
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|cover        = Romancing SaGa Minstrel Song Remastered cover.jpg
 
|developers  =  
 
|developers  =  
{{Infobox game/row/developer|Square Enix}}
+
{{Infobox game/row/developer|Bullets}}
 +
{{Infobox game/row/developer|Square Enix|Original game}}
 +
|publishers  =
 +
{{Infobox game/row/publisher|Square Enix}}
 
|engines      =  
 
|engines      =  
 +
{{Infobox game/row/engine|Unity|name=Unity 2020|ref=<ref>{{Refcheck|user=Fds29|date=2022-12-01}}</ref>|build=2020.3.36f1}}
 
|release dates=  
 
|release dates=  
 
{{Infobox game/row/date|Windows|December 1, 2022}}
 
{{Infobox game/row/date|Windows|December 1, 2022}}
 
|reception    =  
 
|reception    =  
{{Infobox game/row/reception|Metacritic|romancing-saga-minstrel-song-remastered|n/a}}
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{{Infobox game/row/reception|Metacritic|romancing-saga-minstrel-song-remastered|rating}}
{{Infobox game/row/reception|OpenCritic|link|rating}}
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{{Infobox game/row/reception|OpenCritic|14044/romancing-saga-minstrel-song-remastered|71}}
{{Infobox game/row/reception|IGDB|romancing-saga-minstrel-song-remastered|n/a}}
+
{{Infobox game/row/reception|IGDB|romancing-saga-minstrel-song-remastered|rating}}
 
|taxonomy    =
 
|taxonomy    =
{{Infobox game/row/taxonomy/monetization      | }}
+
{{Infobox game/row/taxonomy/monetization      | One-time game purchase }}
{{Infobox game/row/taxonomy/microtransactions | }}
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{{Infobox game/row/taxonomy/microtransactions | None }}
 
{{Infobox game/row/taxonomy/modes            | Singleplayer }}
 
{{Infobox game/row/taxonomy/modes            | Singleplayer }}
{{Infobox game/row/taxonomy/pacing            | }}
+
{{Infobox game/row/taxonomy/pacing            | Turn-based }}
{{Infobox game/row/taxonomy/perspectives      | }}
+
{{Infobox game/row/taxonomy/perspectives      | Third-person }}
{{Infobox game/row/taxonomy/controls          | }}
+
{{Infobox game/row/taxonomy/controls          | Direct control, Menu-based }}
{{Infobox game/row/taxonomy/genres            | JRPG }}
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{{Infobox game/row/taxonomy/genres            | JRPG, RPG }}
{{Infobox game/row/taxonomy/sports            | }}
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{{Infobox game/row/taxonomy/sports            | }}
{{Infobox game/row/taxonomy/vehicles          | }}
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{{Infobox game/row/taxonomy/vehicles          | }}
 
{{Infobox game/row/taxonomy/art styles        | Anime }}
 
{{Infobox game/row/taxonomy/art styles        | Anime }}
 
{{Infobox game/row/taxonomy/themes            | Fantasy }}
 
{{Infobox game/row/taxonomy/themes            | Fantasy }}
 
{{Infobox game/row/taxonomy/series            | SaGa }}
 
{{Infobox game/row/taxonomy/series            | SaGa }}
|steam appid  =  
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|steam appid  = 1793030
 
|steam appid side  =  
 
|steam appid side  =  
 
|gogcom id    =  
 
|gogcom id    =  
 
|gogcom id side =  
 
|gogcom id side =  
 
|official site=  
 
|official site=  
|hltb        =  
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|hltb        = 30049
 
|lutris      =  
 
|lutris      =  
|mobygames    =  
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|mobygames    = romancing-saga-minstrel-song-remastered
 
|strategywiki = Romancing SaGa: Minstrel Song
 
|strategywiki = Romancing SaGa: Minstrel Song
|wikipedia    =  
+
|wikipedia    = Romancing SaGa#Romancing SaGa: Minstrel Song
 
|winehq      =  
 
|winehq      =  
 
|license      = commercial
 
|license      = commercial
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{{Introduction
 
{{Introduction
|introduction      =  
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|introduction      = '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is a remaster of the 2005 PlayStation 2 game ''Romancing SaGa: Minstrel Song'', previously released in North America as simply ''Romancing SaGa''. ''Minstrel Song'' is a remake of the 1992 Super Famicom game ''Romancing SaGa'', the first installment in the ''Romancing SaGa'' series.
  
 
|release history  =  
 
|release history  =  
  
|current state    =
+
|current state    = The remaster features enhanced visuals, quality of life improvements and additional content.
 
}}
 
}}
 +
 +
'''General information'''
 +
{{mm}} [https://steamcommunity.com/app/1793030/discussions/ Steam Community Discussions]
  
 
==Availability==
 
==Availability==
 
{{Availability|
 
{{Availability|
{{Availability/row| Steam | 1793030 | unknown |  |  | Windows | unavailable }}
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{{Availability/row| GMG | romancing-saga-minstrel-song-remastered-pc | Steam | | | Windows }}
 +
{{Availability/row| Humble | romancing-saga-minstrel-song-remastered | Steam | | | Windows }}
 +
{{Availability/row| Steam | 1793030 | Steam |  |  | Windows }}
 +
}}
 +
{{ii}} All versions require {{DRM|Steam}}.
 +
 
 +
==Monetization==
 +
{{Monetization
 +
|ad-supported          =
 +
|dlc                    =
 +
|expansion pack        =
 +
|freeware              =
 +
|free-to-play          =
 +
|one-time game purchase = The game requires an upfront purchase to access.
 +
|sponsored              =
 +
|subscription          =
 +
}}
 +
 
 +
===Microtransactions===
 +
{{Microtransactions
 +
|boost              =
 +
|cosmetic            =
 +
|currency            =
 +
|finite spend        =
 +
|infinite spend      =
 +
|free-to-grind      =
 +
|loot box            =
 +
|none                = None
 +
|player trading      =
 +
|time-limited        =
 +
|unlock              =
 
}}
 
}}
  
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===Configuration file(s) location===
 
===Configuration file(s) location===
 
{{Game data|
 
{{Game data|
{{Game data/config|Windows|}}
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{{Game data/config|Windows|{{p|hkcu}}\Software\SquareEnix\Romancing SaGa -Minstrel Song- Remastered | {{p|userprofile}}\Documents\My Games\Romancing SaGa -Minstrel Song- Remastered\Steam\{{p|uid}}\SaveData\AppSetting.bin}}
 
}}
 
}}
  
 
===Save game data location===
 
===Save game data location===
 
{{Game data|
 
{{Game data|
{{Game data/saves|Windows|}}
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{{Game data/saves|Windows|{{p|userprofile}}\Documents\My Games\Romancing SaGa -Minstrel Song- Remastered\Steam\{{p|uid}}\SaveData\SaveData.bin}}
 
}}
 
}}
  
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|origin                    =  
 
|origin                    =  
 
|origin notes              =  
 
|origin notes              =  
|steam cloud              = unknown
+
|steam cloud              = true
 
|steam cloud notes        =  
 
|steam cloud notes        =  
 
|ubisoft connect          =  
 
|ubisoft connect          =  
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==Video==
 
==Video==
 +
{{Image|MinstrelSongRemasteredSystem.png|System settings}}
 +
{{Image|MinstrelSongRemasteredScreen.png|Screen settings}}
 
{{Video
 
{{Video
 
|wsgf link                  =  
 
|wsgf link                  =  
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|ultrawidescreen wsgf award =  
 
|ultrawidescreen wsgf award =  
 
|4k ultra hd wsgf award    =  
 
|4k ultra hd wsgf award    =  
|widescreen resolution      = unknown
+
|widescreen resolution      = true
 
|widescreen resolution notes=  
 
|widescreen resolution notes=  
|multimonitor              = unknown
+
|multimonitor              = false
 
|multimonitor notes        =  
 
|multimonitor notes        =  
|ultrawidescreen            = unknown
+
|ultrawidescreen            = false
 
|ultrawidescreen notes      =  
 
|ultrawidescreen notes      =  
|4k ultra hd                = unknown
+
|4k ultra hd                = true
 
|4k ultra hd notes          =  
 
|4k ultra hd notes          =  
|fov                        = unknown
+
|fov                        = false
 
|fov notes                  =  
 
|fov notes                  =  
|windowed                  = unknown
+
|windowed                  = true
 
|windowed notes            =  
 
|windowed notes            =  
|borderless windowed        = unknown
+
|borderless windowed        = true
 
|borderless windowed notes  =  
 
|borderless windowed notes  =  
|anisotropic                = unknown
+
|anisotropic                = limited
|anisotropic notes          =  
+
|anisotropic notes          = On/off toggle. Unknown value.
|antialiasing              = unknown
+
|antialiasing              = true
|antialiasing notes        =  
+
|antialiasing notes        = [[FXAA]], [[SMAA]], and [[MSAA]] (2x, 4x, 8x).
|vsync                      = unknown
+
|vsync                      = always on
 
|vsync notes                =  
 
|vsync notes                =  
|60 fps                    = unknown
+
|60 fps                    = false
 
|60 fps notes              =  
 
|60 fps notes              =  
|120 fps                    = unknown
+
|120 fps                    = false
|120 fps notes              =  
+
|120 fps notes              = Exploration and battles are internally capped at 30 FPS. Menus and UI elements are capped at the display's refresh rate.
|hdr                        = unknown
+
|hdr                        = false
 
|hdr notes                  =  
 
|hdr notes                  =  
|ray tracing                = unknown
+
|color blind                = false
|ray tracing notes          =
 
|color blind                = unknown
 
 
|color blind notes          =  
 
|color blind notes          =  
 
}}
 
}}
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==Input==
 
==Input==
 
{{Input
 
{{Input
|key remap                = unknown
+
|key remap                = true
 
|key remap notes          =  
 
|key remap notes          =  
|acceleration option      = unknown
+
|acceleration option      = false
 
|acceleration option notes =  
 
|acceleration option notes =  
|mouse sensitivity        = unknown
+
|mouse sensitivity        = false
 
|mouse sensitivity notes  =  
 
|mouse sensitivity notes  =  
|mouse menu                = unknown
+
|mouse menu                = true
 
|mouse menu notes          =  
 
|mouse menu notes          =  
|invert mouse y-axis      = unknown
+
|invert mouse y-axis      = false
 
|invert mouse y-axis notes =  
 
|invert mouse y-axis notes =  
|touchscreen              = unknown
+
|touchscreen              = true
 
|touchscreen notes        =  
 
|touchscreen notes        =  
|controller support        = unknown
+
|controller support        = true
 
|controller support notes  =  
 
|controller support notes  =  
|full controller          = unknown
+
|full controller          = true
 
|full controller notes    =  
 
|full controller notes    =  
|controller remap          = unknown
+
|controller remap          = limited
|controller remap notes    =  
+
|controller remap notes    = Limited to six actions that can be reassigned.
|controller sensitivity    = unknown
+
|controller sensitivity    = false
 
|controller sensitivity notes=  
 
|controller sensitivity notes=  
|invert controller y-axis  = unknown
+
|invert controller y-axis  = false
 
|invert controller y-axis notes=  
 
|invert controller y-axis notes=  
|xinput controllers        = unknown
+
|xinput controllers        = true
|xinput controllers notes  =  
+
|xinput controllers notes  = [[Store:Steam#Steam_Input|Steam Input]] must be enabled for Xbox controller support.
|xbox prompts              = unknown
+
|xbox prompts              = true
 
|xbox prompts notes        =  
 
|xbox prompts notes        =  
|impulse triggers          = unknown
+
|impulse triggers          = false
 
|impulse triggers notes    =  
 
|impulse triggers notes    =  
|dualshock 4              = unknown
+
|dualshock 4              = true
|dualshock 4 notes        =  
+
|dualshock 4 notes        = [[Store:Steam#Steam_Input|Steam Input]] must be enabled for PlayStation controller support.
|dualshock prompts        = unknown
+
|dualshock prompts        = true
|dualshock prompts notes  =  
+
|dualshock prompts notes  = [[Controller:DualShock 4|DualShock 4]] and [[Controller:DualSense|DualSense]] prompts are both supported.
|light bar support        = unknown
+
|light bar support        = false
 
|light bar support notes  =  
 
|light bar support notes  =  
 
|dualshock 4 modes        = unknown
 
|dualshock 4 modes        = unknown
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|tracked motion prompts    = unknown
 
|tracked motion prompts    = unknown
 
|tracked motion prompts notes =  
 
|tracked motion prompts notes =  
|other controllers        = unknown
+
|other controllers        = true
|other controllers notes  =  
+
|other controllers notes  = [[Store:Steam#Steam_Input|Steam Input]] must be enabled for generic controller support.
|other button prompts      = unknown
+
|other button prompts      = false
 
|other button prompts notes=  
 
|other button prompts notes=  
|controller hotplug        = unknown
+
|controller hotplug        = true
 
|controller hotplug notes  =  
 
|controller hotplug notes  =  
|haptic feedback          = unknown
+
|haptic feedback          = true
 
|haptic feedback notes    =  
 
|haptic feedback notes    =  
|simultaneous input        = unknown
+
|simultaneous input        = true
 
|simultaneous input notes  =  
 
|simultaneous input notes  =  
|steam input api          = unknown
+
|steam input api          = true
 
|steam input api notes    =  
 
|steam input api notes    =  
 
|steam hook input          = unknown
 
|steam hook input          = unknown
 
|steam hook input notes    =  
 
|steam hook input notes    =  
|steam input presets      = unknown
+
|steam input presets      = true
 
|steam input presets notes =  
 
|steam input presets notes =  
 
|steam controller prompts  = unknown
 
|steam controller prompts  = unknown
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|steam cursor detection notes =  
 
|steam cursor detection notes =  
 
}}
 
}}
 +
<gallery>
 +
MinstrelSongRemasteredController.png|Controller assignments
 +
MinstrelSongRemasteredKeyboard.png|Keyboard assignments
 +
</gallery>
  
 
==Audio==
 
==Audio==
 +
{{Image|MinstrelSongRemasteredAudio.png|Audio settings}}
 
{{Audio
 
{{Audio
|separate volume          = unknown
+
|separate volume          = true
|separate volume notes    =  
+
|separate volume notes    = Music, sound effects, and voices.
|surround sound            = unknown
+
|surround sound            = true
 
|surround sound notes      =  
 
|surround sound notes      =  
|subtitles                = unknown
+
|subtitles                = true
 
|subtitles notes          =  
 
|subtitles notes          =  
|closed captions          = unknown
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|closed captions          = false
 
|closed captions notes    =  
 
|closed captions notes    =  
|mute on focus lost        = unknown
+
|mute on focus lost        = false
 
|mute on focus lost notes  =  
 
|mute on focus lost notes  =  
|eax support              =
 
|eax support notes        =
 
|red book cd audio        =
 
|red book cd audio notes  =
 
|general midi audio        =
 
|general midi audio notes  =
 
 
}}
 
}}
  
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  |language  = English
 
  |language  = English
 
  |interface = true
 
  |interface = true
  |audio    = unknown
+
  |audio    = true
  |subtitles = unknown
+
  |subtitles = true
 
  |notes    =  
 
  |notes    =  
 
  |fan      =  
 
  |fan      =  
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  |language  = Japanese
 
  |language  = Japanese
 
  |interface = true
 
  |interface = true
  |audio    = unknown
+
  |audio    = true
  |subtitles = unknown
+
  |subtitles = true
 
  |notes    =  
 
  |notes    =  
 
  |fan      =  
 
  |fan      =  
 
  |ref      =  
 
  |ref      =  
 
}}
 
}}
 +
}}
 +
 +
===Japanese Audio===
 +
{{Fixbox|description=Use Japanese audio with English text|fix=
 +
# Backup or delete the files {{file|VOICE_US.acb}} and {{file|VOICE_US.awb}} in {{folder|{{p|game}}\Romancing SaGa -Minstrel Song- Remastered_Data\StreamingAssets\Sound\}}
 +
# Set the game's language to Japanese
 +
## Right click game in your library and select {{code|Properties...}}
 +
## In the General menu, select {{code|Japanese}} from the {{code|Language}} dropdown
 +
# Go back to the {{folder|Sound}} folder and you should see two new files starting with {{code|VOICE_JP}}
 +
# Rename both files so that they match the names of the original English voice files: {{file|VOICE_US.acb}} and {{file|VOICE_US.awb}}
 +
# Set the game's language back to English from in-game
 
}}
 
}}
  
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===API===
 
===API===
 
{{API
 
{{API
|direct3d versions      =  
+
|direct3d versions      = 11.1
 
|direct3d notes        =  
 
|direct3d notes        =  
 
|directdraw versions    =  
 
|directdraw versions    =  
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|shader model versions  =  
 
|shader model versions  =  
 
|shader model notes    =  
 
|shader model notes    =  
|windows 32-bit exe    = unknown
+
|windows 32-bit exe    = false
|windows 64-bit exe    = unknown
+
|windows 64-bit exe    = true
 
|windows arm app        = unknown
 
|windows arm app        = unknown
 
|windows exe notes      =  
 
|windows exe notes      =  
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|physics          =  
 
|physics          =  
 
|physics notes    =  
 
|physics notes    =  
|audio            =  
+
|audio            = Criware
 
|audio notes      =  
 
|audio notes      =  
 
|interface        =  
 
|interface        =  
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|input            =  
 
|input            =  
 
|input notes      =  
 
|input notes      =  
|cutscenes        =  
+
|cutscenes        = Criware
 
|cutscenes notes  =  
 
|cutscenes notes  =  
 
|multiplayer      =  
 
|multiplayer      =  
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|OSfamily = Windows
 
|OSfamily = Windows
  
|minOS    =  
+
|minOS    = 10, 11
|minCPU  =  
+
|minCPU  = Intel Core i3-4330
|minRAM  =  
+
|minCPU2  = AMD A8-7600
|minHD    =  
+
|minRAM  = 8 GB
|minGPU  =  
+
|minHD    = 15 GB
 +
|minGPU  = Nvidia GeForce GT 730
 +
|minGPU2  = AMD Radeon R7 240
 +
|minGPU3  = Intel HD Graphics 4600
 +
|minDX    = 11
  
 
|recOS    =  
 
|recOS    =  
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|recRAM  =  
 
|recRAM  =  
 
|recHD    =  
 
|recHD    =  
|recGPU  =  
+
|recGPU  = Nvidia GeForce GTX 750
|notes    =  
+
|recGPU2  = AMD Radeon RX 460
 +
|notes    = {{ii}} A 64-bit operating system is required. {{ii}} Minimum system requirements are for 720p 30 FPS; recommended system requirements are for 1080p 60 FPS (UI: 60 FPS, battles & exploration: 30 FPS).
 
}}
 
}}
  
 
{{References}}
 
{{References}}

Latest revision as of 14:05, 7 April 2024

Romancing SaGa: Minstrel Song Remastered
Romancing SaGa: Minstrel Song Remastered cover
Developers
Bullets
Original game Square Enix
Publishers
Square Enix
Engines
Unity 2020[Note 1]
Release dates
Windows December 1, 2022
Reception
OpenCritic 71
Taxonomy
Monetization One-time game purchase
Microtransactions None
Modes Singleplayer
Pacing Turn-based
Perspectives Third-person
Controls Direct control, Menu-based
Genres JRPG, RPG
Art styles Anime
Themes Fantasy
Series SaGa
Romancing SaGa: Minstrel Song Remastered on HowLongToBeat
Romancing SaGa: Minstrel Song Remastered on IGDB
Romancing SaGa: Minstrel Song Remastered guide on StrategyWiki
Romancing SaGa: Minstrel Song Remastered on MobyGames
Romancing SaGa: Minstrel Song Remastered on Wikipedia
SaGa
Subseries of Final Fantasy
Romancing SaGa 2 2017
SaGa Scarlet Grace: Ambitions 2018
Romancing SaGa 3 2019
SaGa Frontier Remastered 2021
Collection of SaGa: Final Fantasy Legend 2021
Romancing SaGa: Minstrel Song Remastered 2022
SaGa Emerald Beyond 2024

Romancing SaGa: Minstrel Song Remastered is a remaster of the 2005 PlayStation 2 game Romancing SaGa: Minstrel Song, previously released in North America as simply Romancing SaGa. Minstrel Song is a remake of the 1992 Super Famicom game Romancing SaGa, the first installment in the Romancing SaGa series.

The remaster features enhanced visuals, quality of life improvements and additional content.

General information

Steam Community Discussions

Availability

Source DRM Notes Keys OS
Green Man Gaming
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Windows
Humble Store
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Windows
Steam
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Windows
All versions require Steam DRM.

Monetization

Type Notes
One-time game purchase The game requires an upfront purchase to access.

Microtransactions

Type Notes
No microtransactions None

Game data

Configuration file(s) location

System Location
Windows HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\SquareEnix\Romancing SaGa -Minstrel Song- Remastered
%USERPROFILE%\Documents\My Games\Romancing SaGa -Minstrel Song- Remastered\Steam\<user-id>\SaveData\AppSetting.bin
Steam Play (Linux) <SteamLibrary-folder>/steamapps/compatdata/1793030/pfx/[Note 2]

Save game data location

System Location
Windows %USERPROFILE%\Documents\My Games\Romancing SaGa -Minstrel Song- Remastered\Steam\<user-id>\SaveData\SaveData.bin
Steam Play (Linux) <SteamLibrary-folder>/steamapps/compatdata/1793030/pfx/[Note 2]

Save game cloud syncing

System Native Notes
Steam Cloud

Video

System settings
System settings
Screen settings
Screen settings

Graphics feature State Notes
Widescreen resolution
Multi-monitor
Ultra-widescreen
4K Ultra HD
Field of view (FOV)
Windowed
Borderless fullscreen windowed
Anisotropic filtering (AF)
On/off toggle. Unknown value.
Anti-aliasing (AA)
FXAA, SMAA, and MSAA (2x, 4x, 8x).
Vertical sync (Vsync)
See the glossary page for potential workarounds.
60 FPS and 120+ FPS
Exploration and battles are internally capped at 30 FPS. Menus and UI elements are capped at the display's refresh rate.
High dynamic range display (HDR)
See the glossary page for potential alternatives.
The game engine may allow for manual configuration of the game via its variables. See the Unity page for more details.

Input

Audio

Audio settings
Audio settings

Audio feature State Notes
Separate volume controls
Music, sound effects, and voices.
Surround sound
Subtitles
Closed captions
Mute on focus lost

Localizations

Language UI Audio Sub Notes
English
Japanese

Japanese Audio

Use Japanese audio with English text
  1. Backup or delete the files VOICE_US.acb and VOICE_US.awb in <path-to-game>\Romancing SaGa -Minstrel Song- Remastered_Data\StreamingAssets\Sound\
  2. Set the game's language to Japanese
    1. Right click game in your library and select Properties...
    2. In the General menu, select Japanese from the Language dropdown
  3. Go back to the Sound folder and you should see two new files starting with VOICE_JP
  4. Rename both files so that they match the names of the original English voice files: VOICE_US.acb and VOICE_US.awb
  5. Set the game's language back to English from in-game

Other information

API

Technical specs Supported Notes
Direct3D 11.1
Executable 32-bit 64-bit Notes
Windows

Middleware

Middleware Notes
Audio Criware
Cutscenes Criware

System requirements

Windows
Minimum Recommended
Operating system (OS) 10, 11
Processor (CPU) Intel Core i3-4330
AMD A8-7600
System memory (RAM) 8 GB
Hard disk drive (HDD) 15 GB
Video card (GPU) Nvidia GeForce GT 730
AMD Radeon R7 240
Intel HD Graphics 4600
DirectX 11 compatible
A 64-bit operating system is required.
Minimum system requirements are for 720p 30 FPS; recommended system requirements are for 1080p 60 FPS (UI: 60 FPS, battles & exploration: 30 FPS).


Notes

  1. Unity engine build: 2020.3.36f1[1]
  2. 2.0 2.1 Notes regarding Steam Play (Linux) data:

References

  1. Verified by User:Fds29 on 2022-12-01