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Topic on User talk:Jigen123

Self-publishing titles

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Mrtnptrs (talkcontribs)

Why is it good practice to NOT mention the publisher when it is self-published? Because if you do that, then at the summary of the company (Rebellion Developments for example on the Sniper Elite 4 page) you see only a very short list of published titles, while it should be huge. We should be proud of companies being able to self-publish right? :) Is there a template rule on PCGamingwiki against mentioning that it is self-published?

Jigen123 (talkcontribs)
Mrtnptrs (talkcontribs)

Ah, okay, did not know that. Honestly I thus don't share the same opinion on that rule haha; it makes it significantly harder to see from the developer-page on PCGamingwiki which games a developer published. Also, on game pages themselves, you then never know if they actually self-published it or that just no one added the publisher yet to the page. If I would want to start a more global discussion on PCGamingwiki about this to get it changed possibly (or at least have an open discussion about it), how could I best do that? Start a forum-discussion?

Mrtnptrs (talkcontribs)
Jigen123 (talkcontribs)

It's not inconsistent and there are no users that have difficulty with this guideline (not the ones that take a moment to read the Editing guide, at least). All the examples you mentioned have multiple developers listed (porters or co-developers), and in that case listing a publisher that is the same as one of the developers is needed to know who published the game.

Mrtnptrs (talkcontribs)

Ah, ok, that indeed explains the "inconsistencies" I saw. Hmmm, but still, if I would want to discuss this further with others to get more opinions about this, would a forum-post be the best way to go?

Mrtnptrs (talkcontribs)

Btw, want to make sure: not trying to annoy you of course and not annoyed by you reverting some of my comments, just finding this a possible interesting topic for broader discussion haha.

Baronsmoki (talkcontribs)

Mrtnptrs1, you're correct that the editing guide currently does not explicitly prohibit adding self-published developers to the publisher field. However, the de facto standard established by our experienced editors has been to omit self-published developers from the publisher field. So for now, I encourage you to follow that convention, simply to keep the wiki consistent.

I do think this part of the editing guide should be rewritten in order to have a single explicit standard. Since you're interested in discussing it, the best way to talk with us is probably to join our Discord server (the #articles channel), although you could also use the PCGW forums.

Mrtnptrs (talkcontribs)

Baronsmoki, I'll keep that in mind then for now for the sake of consistency. I might have an idea to solve this that merges the best of both worlds, but I'll discuss that later then on the Discord server. Thanks for letting me know.

Mrtnptrs (talkcontribs)

Ok, discussion held on Discord: for future reference for others; there doesn't seem to be a good solution for this without duplicating data. Thus, don't mention the publisher when it is self-published :)