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Topic on Talk:Gurumin: A Monstrous Adventure

68.187.232.12 (talkcontribs)

Perhaps the game was changed purposely by the developers to remove offensive content and that should be upheld, or would you rather just admit that you get your jollies off on a 12 year old's underwear? Worth noting that the person that originally included the link to the mod only has edits to one other game, and lo and behold, it's to restore a nude scene in a game with children.

Maybe take a look inward if you think "preservation" of sexualization of children is something worth arguing for.

Andytizer (talkcontribs)

Ad-hominem attacks are not acceptable (by both users and by Senior editors), and therefore we will apply warnings for Harassing users.

Furthermore this mod falls in line with PCGamingWiki's goals, and I have now established a policy on cut content, which means that this mod will remain on the article.

68.51.178.154 (talkcontribs)

Thank you for this change. While the best solution would be for edits of this sort of controversial nature to not be allowed anywhere, after managing communities and mod workshops for the games I work on as long as I have, I understand that to create the rules against them and to actively and consistently uphold them would be an impossible task, so a neutral voice is understandably the next best thing, and the usage of more professional language in the article itself obviously results in a more professional looking website. Though, an 18+/sensitive material tag for things like these might be a good addition when the description is this vague.

68.51.178.154 (talkcontribs)

As the other editor here (thought I did a pretty good job at meeting somewhere in the middle, apparently not) I have to add that upon viewing the page and immediately seeing that there wasn't just content changed in localization but a /panty shot/ made me wonder what we're really doing here, and kinda put me off from using PCGW as a reference if I'm going to be completely honest.

People come here to get info on their games and to potentially find fixes to problems. There are other websites whose goal is to collect information on localization differences and to provide the files necessary to revert edits, this is not the goal of PCGW. I also find it abhorrent that a senior editor would call someone an idiot for removing content that brings down the appearance of the website, not to mention could potentially cause legal trouble for the site if it were reported, given that as has been stated, this content was expressly for revealing the area under a child's skirt to be able to view her undergarments.

I'm not saying my writing is perfect or ought to be permanently set in stone or anything, but my edit provided exactly the kind of information necessary and expected by the editing guide without going too far, and it worries me that even that has been deemed unacceptable.

Thebrickstershotpizza (talkcontribs)

I don't want anyone to get the wrong idea but localization and censorship is a topic of interest to me and I always check this wiki before playing a PC game. Having now played entirely too much of this game, reading conflicting reports on this game's localization and tracking down the original ISO to run various comparisons I've found that this mod is completely pointless.

I again want to stress that I do this simply for the sake of record and interest in this field, please don't attack me over this. I can see this was heated and I cannot imagine the response in current year.

The mod doesn't do anything. The "black censorship void" is present in Normal, Beginner and Hard mode and it does not exist in Happy mode (I haven't made it to Crazy but I presume it's gone there too). This is true for both the 2004 original and the Steam re-release by Mastiff. The mod does nothing to change this. I have no idea what it does and you really have to fix the camera one way, wear a specific outfit and squint directly at it to even notice it being there or not. Personally I wonder why they bothered with the void at all let alone this per-difficulty arrangement. I'm going to remove the mod now it's completely pointless.

Jigen123 (talkcontribs)

Frankly, a thread like this where anons joined just to throw some questionable accusations at the site and its editors because not everything perfectly aligns with their views didn't need to be resurrected at all. You should have started a new discussion or, better yet, joined our official Discord server.
With that being said, it would be nice if you could provide some proofs before removing stuff from the wiki, especially considering this is literally your only edit on the site. Because of this, i will revert the edit while waiting for proofs.
It's been a long time since i have properly played the game but, from what i remember, the way it works in the original Japanese PC release is that Happy Mode removes the "black void" from the default outfit. The Mastiff rerelease keeps the edit made for the PSP version, which retains the "black void" even in this mode. This was the situation at launch, at least. If this is not the case anymore and the "issue" has been fixed (if it has, it must have happened shortly after launch considering the game has not received a patch in years), the mod can be removed from the article since our goal for listing this type of mods is to restore removed or altered content and not add something that was never there to begin with.

Thebrickstershotpizza (talkcontribs)

How can I provide evidence?