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Talk:The big list of DRM-free games on Steam

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Arios (talkcontribs)
Arios (talkcontribs)

Please, don't rewrite Steamworks section for sake of rewrite. People think Steamworks = DRM which is wrong. It's myth based on others digital stores description where they write DRM: Steamworks. Steamworks is not just Steam Cloud, Steam Achievements and multiplayer (those are the most known). That's why I wrote "others" and it means Steam Leaderboards, Steam Workshop, Steamworks CEG (DRM), Valve Anti-Cheat, Stats and probably some other things.

Garrett (talkcontribs)

My reasoning was to reduce the space taken up by the introduction sections; how about something like "Steamworks is not DRM itself but can offer features such as (X Y Z); Steamworks features won't work when running the game without the client", with the Steamworks page then describing what it is and isn't?

It might also be useful to note cases where multiplayer and other major features of a game rely on Steamworks since that game would then be a seriously reduced experience when played without Steam.

Arios (talkcontribs)

Leave it for now as is. It will be improved. Games are more important ;-).

Grammar fixes, more professional, etc.

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Nicereddy (talkcontribs)

I fixed some issues I thought were present, I think this list could be incredibly helpful but we generally don't want to inject any bias into it. The only bias we show on this wiki is towards PC features (FOV, no framerate caps, multi-monitor support, etc.) and against DRM in general. We don't necessarily prefer any storefront, developer, or game over another and it shouldn't appear that way.

At least, that's what I've gathered. I could be mistaken.

Arios (talkcontribs)

It is just test page. I'll open later this week a thread in SPUF to inform people. Please, don't delete semi-indie and Stardock. There will be games. I have big list. Need time to test, install and check all plus real life :-). I think it will be finished for around 10 days. There will be publishers' paragraphs. Don't change names of games - they'll have name like in Steam Store page.

Nicereddy (talkcontribs)

Sorry, I changed them to reflect the article names on this wiki but I suppose it would be better to simply create redirects to their properly titled pages for ease of comparison with their respective Steam pages.

I deleted Stardock because at the time there were no games listed under the header. Preferably, we'd only include sections if there was at least one game under the section.

Thanks for your work on this, I think it's going to be an excellent addition to the wiki.

Nicereddy (talkcontribs)

You edited my message rather than replying, here's the reply (for readability's sake):

OK, I didn't know why you edited names. Use games' name for wiki if you need, there is link to Store page anyway. I created the list of developers because I have always the same fight in Steam forums because people always repeat "but only indie games are DRM free, bla bla bla" and "Steamworks is DRM" - that's why I'll note Steamworks title. I want to disapprove stupid claims.

A GOG.com Forum Post w/ some information

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Nicereddy (talkcontribs)

See here.

Should we just add these or would it be preferable to test them first?

Arios (talkcontribs)
Anonymous (talkcontribs)

It probably should be clarified this page focuses on Windows versions of games (if the .exe stuff wasn't making it obvious enough), as the status of games on Linux is often different (and possibly OS X too, but I'm not familiar with that end of the situation).

Arios (talkcontribs)

That is true. I'll add only one Linux game which is DRM free in Linux and is CEG protected in Win and it will be noted. Valve pushes Linux, so :-).

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