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The Dual Heavy Weight is essentially an affordable version of the [[Controller:HORI Fighting Stick Multi|Fighting Stick Multi]], but only with support for the Super Famicom/SNES and the Mega Drive/Genesis consoles. It doesn't have an detachable cables. Other features like turbo function and slow motion function were retained.
 
The Dual Heavy Weight is essentially an affordable version of the [[Controller:HORI Fighting Stick Multi|Fighting Stick Multi]], but only with support for the Super Famicom/SNES and the Mega Drive/Genesis consoles. It doesn't have an detachable cables. Other features like turbo function and slow motion function were retained.
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|release history  = A minor revised model, the '''HORI Fighting Stick Dual Plus''', was released in Japan in December 1995. The revised model include a Genesis-to-Saturn adapter.
  
 
|current state    = Due to being made specifically for video game consoles, the Dual Heavy Weight requires a third-party adapter to be able to use on PC (See [[#Adapters|Adapters]]), and even then, it will acts as a DirectInput device, requiring the use of a third-party wrapper to play games that only support the XInput API.
 
|current state    = Due to being made specifically for video game consoles, the Dual Heavy Weight requires a third-party adapter to be able to use on PC (See [[#Adapters|Adapters]]), and even then, it will acts as a DirectInput device, requiring the use of a third-party wrapper to play games that only support the XInput API.
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* 1 × 3-step slider toggle switch on the sub panel: {{Key|ꜱʟᴏᴡ ᴏꜰꜰ-1-2}}
 
* 1 × 3-step slider toggle switch on the sub panel: {{Key|ꜱʟᴏᴡ ᴏꜰꜰ-1-2}}
 
* 2 × digital functional buttons on the sub panel: {{Key|ꜱᴇʟᴇᴄᴛ/ᴍᴏᴅᴇ}}, {{Key|ꜱᴛᴀʀᴛ}}
 
* 2 × digital functional buttons on the sub panel: {{Key|ꜱᴇʟᴇᴄᴛ/ᴍᴏᴅᴇ}}, {{Key|ꜱᴛᴀʀᴛ}}
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==Controller variations==
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{{ii}} The '''HORI Dual Heavy Weight''' is the original release.
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{{ii}} The '''HORI Fighting Stick Dual Plus''' is a minor revised model that comes with a Genesis-to-Saturn adapter. Only available in Japan.
  
 
==Use with PC platforms==
 
==Use with PC platforms==
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{{ii}} reWASD does not work with third-party drivers. Unsupported yet adapters have to be reported on [https://forum.rewasd.com/ official forum] to implement their support.
 
{{ii}} reWASD does not work with third-party drivers. Unsupported yet adapters have to be reported on [https://forum.rewasd.com/ official forum] to implement their support.
 
{{++}} LED shows which config slot is active at the moment.
 
{{++}} LED shows which config slot is active at the moment.
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{{++}} Can emulate tje [[Controller:DualShock 4|DS4 controller]] to play PS4 Remote Play, PS Now or Dualshock 4 compatible games. Including gyro and accelerometer control.
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{{++}} Can emulate the [[Controller:DualShock 4|DS4 controller]] to play PS4 Remote Play, PS Now or Dualshock 4 compatible games. Including gyro and accelerometer control.
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{{++}} Can emulate the  [[Controller:Xbox 360 Controller|Xbox 360 controller]] to play XInput compatible games.
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{{++}} Can emulate the  [[Controller:Xbox 360 Controller|Xbox 360 controller]] to play XInput-compatible games.
 
{{--}} Not free of charge. 14-days trial.
 
{{--}} Not free of charge. 14-days trial.
 
{{ii}} Custom configs can be found in official [https://www.rewasd.com/community/configs/gamepad/ Community Configs Library] maintained by reWASD users.
 
{{ii}} Custom configs can be found in official [https://www.rewasd.com/community/configs/gamepad/ Community Configs Library] maintained by reWASD users.
  
 
====[[Glossary:Controller#Windows|XInput wrapping]]====
 
====[[Glossary:Controller#Windows|XInput wrapping]]====
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{{ii}} Acting as native DirectInput controller, it's possible to use any of the generic wrappers. See [[Glossary:Controller#Windows|the controller article]] for those.
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{{ii}} Being a DirectInput controller, it's possible to use any of the generic wrappers. See [[Glossary:Controller#Windows|the controller article]] for those.
  
 
==Steam==
 
==Steam==
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{{++}} Compatible with PS3 console.
 
{{++}} Compatible with PS3 console.
  
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===[https://mayflash.com/product/showproduct.php?id=25 Mayflash SEGA Genesis & Mega Drive Controller Adapter]===
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====[https://mayflash.com/product/showproduct.php?id=25 Mayflash SEGA Genesis & Mega Drive Controller Adapter]====
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{{ii}} For use with the Genesis connector.
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{{ii}} For use with the Genesis (DE-9) connector.
 
{{ii}} The SEGA Genesis & Mega Drive Controller Adapter allows you to connect up to two SEGA Genesis & Mega Drive Controllers to PC or Nintendo Switch. With two Adapters, up to four SEGA Genesis & Mega Drive controllers can be used at the same time.
 
{{ii}} The SEGA Genesis & Mega Drive Controller Adapter allows you to connect up to two SEGA Genesis & Mega Drive Controllers to PC or Nintendo Switch. With two Adapters, up to four SEGA Genesis & Mega Drive controllers can be used at the same time.
 
{{++}} Directly compatible with PC. No driver needed, just plug and play. Supports Xinput and Dinput.
 
{{++}} Directly compatible with PC. No driver needed, just plug and play. Supports Xinput and Dinput.
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====[https://www.retrousb.com/product_info.php?cPath=21&products_id=69 USB Genesis RetroPort]====
 
====[https://www.retrousb.com/product_info.php?cPath=21&products_id=69 USB Genesis RetroPort]====
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{{ii}} For use with the Genesis connector.
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{{ii}} For use with the Genesis (DE-9) connector.
 
{{ii}} Adapter to use 3 or 6 button Sega Genesis controllers.
 
{{ii}} Adapter to use 3 or 6 button Sega Genesis controllers.
 
{{++}} No drivers to install or update.
 
{{++}} No drivers to install or update.
  
 
====[https://bliss-box.net/store/Gamer-Pro-Kit-Power-of-the-4-Play-in-a-smaller-space-p129163061 Bliss-Box Gamer-Pro]====
 
====[https://bliss-box.net/store/Gamer-Pro-Kit-Power-of-the-4-Play-in-a-smaller-space-p129163061 Bliss-Box Gamer-Pro]====
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{{ii}} Has optional cables for peripherals that use the Genesis controller port and SNES controller port.
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{{ii}} Has optional cables for peripherals that use the Genesis (DE-9) port, SNES controller port or Saturn Controller port.
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{{++}} Allow hot swapping the controller while the adapter is connected, and has auto pause function which pause the game when it detect that the controller is unplugged..
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{{++}} Allow hot swapping the controller while the adapter is connected, and has auto pause function which pause the game when it detect that the controller is unplugged.
 
{{++}} The [https://bliss-box.net/downloads/ API tool] software for the adapter has numerous functions available, including turbo, manual button mappings, swap around the D-pads and analog stick(s) and other features.
 
{{++}} The [https://bliss-box.net/downloads/ API tool] software for the adapter has numerous functions available, including turbo, manual button mappings, swap around the D-pads and analog stick(s) and other features.
 
{{++}} Has updatable firmware, which can be updated using the [https://bliss-box.net/downloads/ Bliss-Box Flasher] software.
 
{{++}} Has updatable firmware, which can be updated using the [https://bliss-box.net/downloads/ Bliss-Box Flasher] software.
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===Games with Nintendo button prompts===
 
===Games with Nintendo button prompts===
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{{ii}} The controller's button positions and colors, and the amount of buttons, differ considerably from those of other Nintendo controllers. As such, the list below should be treated with some caution.
 
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HORI Dual Heavy Weight
HORI Dual Heavy Weight cover
XInput support
Connection method
Wired adapter, DE-9
Predecessor
HORI Fighting Stick Multi

The HORI Dual Heavy Weight, also known as the HORI Fighting Sitck Dual in Japan, is an arcade game controller released by Hori on November 19, 1994.

The Dual Heavy Weight is essentially an affordable version of the Fighting Stick Multi, but only with support for the Super Famicom/SNES and the Mega Drive/Genesis consoles. It doesn't have an detachable cables. Other features like turbo function and slow motion function were retained.

A minor revised model, the HORI Fighting Stick Dual Plus, was released in Japan in December 1995. The revised model include a Genesis-to-Saturn adapter.

Due to being made specifically for video game consoles, the Dual Heavy Weight requires a third-party adapter to be able to use on PC (See Adapters), and even then, it will acts as a DirectInput device, requiring the use of a third-party wrapper to play games that only support the XInput API.

Inputs

  • 1 × digital joystick on the main panel: ↑, ↓, ←, →
  • 6 × digital face buttons on the main panel
  • 6 × 3-step slider toggle switches on the main panel for turbo function for each buttons: ᴏꜰꜰ-ʜᴏʟᴅ-ᴛᴜʀʙᴏ × 6
  • 1 × 3-step slider toggle switch on the sub panel: ꜱʟᴏᴡ ᴏꜰꜰ-1-2
  • 2 × digital functional buttons on the sub panel: ꜱᴇʟᴇᴄᴛ/ᴍᴏᴅᴇ, ꜱᴛᴀʀᴛ

Controller variations

The HORI Dual Heavy Weight is the original release.
The HORI Fighting Stick Dual Plus is a minor revised model that comes with a Genesis-to-Saturn adapter. Only available in Japan.

Use with PC platforms

Windows

Supported features reWASD Steam Gamepad Phoenix
Virtual Xbox controller emulation ✓ [N 1] ✓ ✓
Virtual Nintendo controller emulation ✓ [N 2] ✗ ✗
Multiple controllers ✓ ✓ ✓
Keyboard & Mouse input emulation ✓ ✓ ✗
Virtual DualShock emulation ✓ [N 3] ✗ ✗
Retro DInput/WinMM compatibility ✗ ✗ ✓
  1. ↑ Allows using controller as Xbox 360 and Xbox One virtual controllers.
  2. ↑ Allows using controller as virtual Switch Pro Controller.
  3. ↑ Allows using controller as DualShock 3 and DualShock 4 virtual controllers.

reWASD

Supports the Dual Heavy Weight via a wired adapter, does not require manual driver installment.
reWASD does not work with third-party drivers. Unsupported yet adapters have to be reported on official forum to implement their support.
LED shows which config slot is active at the moment.
Can emulate the DS4 controller to play PS4 Remote Play, PS Now or Dualshock 4 compatible games. Including gyro and accelerometer control.
Can emulate the Xbox 360 controller to play XInput-compatible games.
Not free of charge. 14-days trial.
Custom configs can be found in official Community Configs Library maintained by reWASD users.

XInput wrapping

Being a DirectInput controller, it's possible to use any of the generic wrappers. See the controller article for those.

Steam

With most adapters, Steam may recognize the Dual Heavy Weight as a generic DirectInput device, thus requiring manual buttons mapping via Steam Input.

Hardware

Adapters

Mayflash SNES Controller Adapter

For use with the SNES connector.
Connects SNES or NES controller.
Directly compatible with PC. No driver needed, just plug and play.
Two players can play simultaneously.
Compatible with PS3 console.

Mayflash SEGA Genesis & Mega Drive Controller Adapter

For use with the Genesis (DE-9) connector.
The SEGA Genesis & Mega Drive Controller Adapter allows you to connect up to two SEGA Genesis & Mega Drive Controllers to PC or Nintendo Switch. With two Adapters, up to four SEGA Genesis & Mega Drive controllers can be used at the same time.
Directly compatible with PC. No driver needed, just plug and play. Supports Xinput and Dinput.
Supports Turbo/Auto Fire/Hold functions. The Left Stick and D-Pad can be switched.
Compatible with Nintendo Switch console.

USB Super RetroPort

For use with the SNES connector.
Works with Super Famicom controllers and original controllers (original, third party, Super Advantage, etc)
Does not work with peripherals: SuperScope, MultiTap, etc.
No drivers to install or update.

USB Genesis RetroPort

For use with the Genesis (DE-9) connector.
Adapter to use 3 or 6 button Sega Genesis controllers.
No drivers to install or update.

Bliss-Box Gamer-Pro

Has optional cables for peripherals that use the Genesis (DE-9) port, SNES controller port or Saturn Controller port.
Allow hot swapping the controller while the adapter is connected, and has auto pause function which pause the game when it detect that the controller is unplugged.
The API tool software for the adapter has numerous functions available, including turbo, manual button mappings, swap around the D-pads and analog stick(s) and other features.
Has updatable firmware, which can be updated using the Bliss-Box Flasher software.
Different button mappings for each type of controllers which automatically switch depending on the connected controller, but only with the 3.0 firmware and later.
Has Low Level API support where it is applicable.
It is plug and play and directly compatible with Windows, OSX, Linux, Raspberry Pi and most Android devices....
...but only act as a DirectInput device, requiring a third-party wrapper for XInput games on Windows.

Support In Games

Games with generic DirectInput support are supported by the controller, however button placements may be out of place and need to be rebound. Refer to game-specific articles for rebinding support.
Support for some controller features may be only available on certain systems. Refer to game-specific articles for details.

Games with Nintendo button prompts

List of games with Nintendo button prompts


References