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Topic on Talk:Grand Theft Auto IV

This page shows the changes between two versions of a post by Zolika1351 in the topic "A couple of corrections and additions" on Talk:Grand Theft Auto IV. You can see other versions of this post at its history page.
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The keyword there is "should" - this downgrader was specifically made to attempt to resolve issues I've come across while watching and helping others use the current downgrader tool.
 
The keyword there is "should" - this downgrader was specifically made to attempt to resolve issues I've come across while watching and helping others use the current downgrader tool.
  
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For one, it seems like it offers *too much* choice. I've frequently seen people get confused and not know what to do when they get to either the version select screen, or the mod select screen. The mod selection is also fairly easy to mess up by a beginner, by installing incompatible mods or not installing essential ones (ZPatch comes to mind, a downgraded game might not even run without it and the only thing telling you this is a small warning on the very right side of the mod list that you have to hover over to pop up, also you can skip GFWL support and then downgrade without installing xliveless - why? this is a guaranteed bricked install) and overall the tool seems to blast people with too much information at times. This is good for experienced people but not so much for a newbie who just wants to get some essential fixes that are only available via downgrading.
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For one, it seems like it offers *too much* choice. I've frequently seen people get confused and not know what to do when they get to either the version select screen, or the mod select screen. The mod selection is also fairly easy to mess up by a beginner, by installing incompatible mods or not installing essential ones (ZPatch comes to mind, a downgraded game might not even run without it and the only thing telling you this is a small warning on the very right side of the mod list that you have to hover over to pop up, also you can skip GFWL support and then downgrade without installing xliveless by unticking every mod - why? this is a guaranteed bricked install if you don't have the GFWL redist installed already and it doesn't even give a warning about it) and overall the tool seems to blast people with too much information at times. This is good for experienced people but not so much for a newbie who just wants to get some essential fixes that are only available via downgrading.
  
 
The bundled mod list also currently bundles some outdated versions of important mods, this can obviously be fixed down the line but currently ZPatch and Shader Fixes Collection are both missing some fixes (Shader Fixes had artifacting in water on V103 which is what the downgrader currently has, and ZPatch fixed sniper rifle mouse acceleration as well as various issues in cutscenes at high FPS since the v6.9.8.2 version that's currently packed in)
 
The bundled mod list also currently bundles some outdated versions of important mods, this can obviously be fixed down the line but currently ZPatch and Shader Fixes Collection are both missing some fixes (Shader Fixes had artifacting in water on V103 which is what the downgrader currently has, and ZPatch fixed sniper rifle mouse acceleration as well as various issues in cutscenes at high FPS since the v6.9.8.2 version that's currently packed in)