Topic on Talk:The big list of DRM-free games on Steam

Mainly regarding CD keys. Some games use CD keys but don't have third party DRM, and the key's usually used for multiplayer (examples include Prey (though with standalone patch; Steam version is Steam DRM protected) and KnightShift). These certainly satisfy points two and three under the section `Definition of "DRM-free on Steam"`. So what's the stance on it?

And I can assume that any games that use Steam DRM or CEG, or crashes or forces relaunch when Steam is not running to be ineligible for the list?

CD key for MP is ok but not if game need it for SP (like games made by Arcen Games - no key = demo). Arma games have CD-key used for MP. The same apply for old Paradox games. SP works without any key. For 2nd question - yes.

What about games that use the key for multiplayer but still requires you to input it even if there's a singleplayer mode (same examples here too)?

I don't understand you. Again, if you can play SP without any CD key input, game is DRM-free. If game pop up CD key input only for MP, it's ok to be on the list. If CD key pop up for SP, it's not DRM-free.

P. S.

Bloody Flash plugin crashed Firefox and I just finished Ubsoft page so I have to type agani (now in Notepad first). F### it.

Those games have singleplayer and multiplayer in the same executable, and it prompts you for the key regardless which mode you want to play. I assume that goes into the "not DRM-free" category?