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Inconsistant paths with XDG value

Polyson (talkcontribs)

~/.config/ is indeed the default directory for XDGBDS, however this path does not prove that the specification is respected. If it is, then the config path is $XDG_CONFIG_HOME/Vessel/. If it is not, then the value of XDG is not the right one (Template:XDG).

Furthermore, the Save game data location path ~/.minecraft/saves shows us that the game does not respect the XDGBDS.

Faalagorn (talkcontribs)

I forgot where exactly I found it, I think it was somewhere in the PCGW wiki or Discord, but it seems not included in the editing guide or anywhere else visible, but the best idea would be to launch the game with XDG_CONFIG_HOME=/tmp/pcgw (after creating a folder first) or similar and then report back.

There's also an XDG_DATA_DIRS though, and there's often inconsistency on how games place save files or similar data in config and other in data files. I've been thinking about solving it and I think the field should be used separately for config and saves, as one can be followed and the other might not.

2A01:E34:EC2D:2360:5FF8:AAD:CAC:FADD (talkcontribs)

What game should I test? This is an example page (PCGamingWiki:Sample_article), I thought it could be modified easily, since it is not about a real game. If you were thinking of testing Vessel, firstly I don't own this game, secondly the game article uses $XDG_CONFIG_HOME/Vessel/ correctly and don't seems to be inconsistent like the one we are talking about.

Note: without going into details, using by default XDG_DATA_DIRS as folder to write save games and other things is not XDGBDS compliant.

Polyson (talkcontribs)

(I don't know why I was disconnected, sorry.)

Fwinest JediThug (talkcontribs)

Can someone please change the fix box template in the sample article to something like this:


It really would help for newcomers. (It took me a long time to figure this out...)

Anonymous (talkcontribs)


Nicereddy (talkcontribs)

Should we use it in the actual sample as well? Just link to a random Steam Community post or something?

Fwinest JediThug (talkcontribs)

Thank you!

Sigma 7 (talkcontribs)

Garrbot is changing "Description" to "Instructions". This probably should be updated in the sample article as well.

Garrett (talkcontribs)

Description is a place holder; this should be replaced with something meaningful when writing a fixbox.

Small inconsistency between Sample Page's (and Template:Infobox game) and Editing Guide's infobox

Faalagorn (talkcontribs)

There's a small inconsistency between the two: "wikipedia" and "winehq" are swapped. It's also worth mentioning that sample page lacks the "steam appid side" field (which isn't said being "optional" in template's and syntax guide).

While we're at it, template's syntax guide lacks winporter developer attribute :)

EDIT: Also, the square enix cloud syncying option is missing in cloud save table.

Garrett (talkcontribs)

Omission of Square Enix cloud was deliberate (it is only used for a couple of games). The other things you mentioned have been corrected.

Hawaii Beach (talkcontribs)

I often find myself having issues with dots writing articles, some people for example put a dot after every key point, other people don't even add a dot after the key points.

When do you add a dot?

Anonymous (talkcontribs)

Always. Tables, key points, everywhere.

It's only proper, and actually correct. And if not, that's the policy in place at the moment.

ThatOneReaper (talkcontribs)

Periods (not "dots") are only included in a Key point if it contains multiple sentences, and even then, they are not added at the end of the final sentence.

A simpler explanation: Don't use periods to end a Key point, only to separate multiple sentences.

If you need further help editing the wiki, check out the Editing Guide.

RaTcHeT302 (talkcontribs)

That's completely counter intuitive. I'd rather add them everywhere, the only place where I don't add dots is if there's a sentence ending with a code tag. So that I won't end up copying the dot accidentaly while copying what's inside the tag.

Anonymous (talkcontribs)

Um, yes they are :)

This is not a bulleted list in a proper sense (in which case we'd have semicolons as well). Periods go at the end of a key point. Not general information, but most definitely key points.

Pilzsuppe (talkcontribs)

The VR Template is included at the bottom of the page, but not in the code section at the top.

==VR support==
{{VR support
|gg3d name                   = 
|native 3d gg3d award        = 
|nvidia 3d vision gg3d award = 
|tridef 3d gg3d award        = 
|iz3d gg3d award             = 
|native 3d                   = 
|native 3d notes             = 
|nvidia 3d vision            = 
|nvidia 3d vision notes      = 
|tridef 3d                   = 
|tridef 3d notes             = 
|iz3d                        = 
|iz3d notes                  = 
|3rd space gaming vest       = 
|3rd space gaming vest notes = 
|creative senz3d             = 
|creative senz3d notes       = 
|leap motion controller      = 
|leap motion controller notes= 
|novint falcon               = 
|novint falcon notes         = 
|oculus rift                 = 
|oculus rift notes           = 
|razer hydra                 = 
|razer hydra notes           = 
|trackir                     = 
|trackir notes               = 
Anonymous (talkcontribs)

Hi, thanks for pointing this out - however, this was a conscious decision, as most game pages, at least at the moment, do not need to have the section, and there's no reason to add the section unless someone is ready to fill in at least some of the details.

Note that you can add this with one click in the editor to any page, as well as many other common templates, without needing to copy it over.

Sigma 7 (talkcontribs)

Page needs new content added:

|local play           = 
|local play players   = 
|local play notes     = 
|lan play             = 
|lan play players     = 
|lan play notes       = 
|online play          = 
|online play players  = 
|online play notes    = 
|local co-op          = 
|local co-op players  = 
|local co-op notes    = 
|lan co-op            = 
|lan co-op players    = 
|lan co-op notes      = 
|online co-op         = 
|online co-op players = 
|online co-op notes   = 
|hot-seat             = 
|hot-seat players     = 
|hot-seat notes       = 
|asynchronous         = 
|asynchronous notes   = 

|matchmaking        = 
|matchmaking notes  = 
|p2p                = 
|p2p notes          = 
|dedicated          = 
|dedicated notes    = 
|self-hosting       = 
|self-hosting notes = 

|tcp  = 
|udp  = 
|upnp = 
Nicereddy (talkcontribs)

Well ballucks, I'm really sorry we forgot about this. I'll add the Localizations template in as well.

Thanks for bringing this to my attention, we very badly need to update the sample article.

Windowed vs Borderless fullscreen windowed

Quaixor (talkcontribs)

Under Video Settings both Windowed and Borderless fullscreen windowed links (on the left side) point to Borderless fullscreen windowed page.

Spacing in audio settings and removal of underscores

Nicereddy (talkcontribs)

Should we remove underscores and add spacing to all the settings templates to create a uniform page?

General Information section

Nicereddy (talkcontribs)

I've never seen this actually used in a page, should it be removed? And if it is, should we move Console Commands to Improvements?

Pridit (talkcontribs)

Console commands can be long, so it's best to put them at the end of the article so it's quick and easy to get to the most important sections like video settings.

Axper (talkcontribs)

This part:

*Code sections can be copied using the <span class="plainlinks">[ edit link for this page]</span>. 

The link contains &ction=edit which I guess should be &action=edit. Someone please correct this, I can't because the page is protected.