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Plok (talkcontribs)

Just because it's in your library from an Origin-era purchase does not mean it's still available for purchase now. In fact, a good chunk of old games were delisted as they're not fully transferred to the EA App.

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Patrxgt (talkcontribs)

It's not in my library. I can buy Populous: The Beginning for 14,99 PLN.

Plok (talkcontribs)

From where, not counting GOG?

Patrxgt (talkcontribs)

EA App. There is also possibility to do this on EA's website, but it's a little buggy and doesn't show correct price. If you ask me, it looks like regional lock (even if there is no reason for such).

Plok (talkcontribs)

Odd, I just switched my region from Croatia to Poland and even Ireland, it doesn't seem to show.

Patrxgt (talkcontribs)

Strange indeed. Maybe try some VPN and using different browser, so you have fresh cache and no cookies, that could trace EA to the country you live in.

Mrtnptrs (talkcontribs)

Wanna give more feedback regarding my revert today in addition to what is already in my revert message as I see you're not in our Discord: it also looks like your presets kinda add "potato"/lower than low settings to the DLC.... This is all good and well, but doesn't really fit on a PCGW page in my opinion as I think it is generally frowned upon to just supply lower presets. Maybe explain them in a table or fixbox at least, so it is more of a tweak for users than magic presets that they can't adjust. But as said in revert message, is easier if you would join our Discord so we can discuss this more publicly with others being able to supply their opinions too ;)

Patrxgt (talkcontribs)

I don't think your opinion should have anything to my addition and it's not a reason to revert somebody's change, just because you "feel" that way. Think, how it would look, if somebody on Wikipedia changed article, just because they "feel" this way. Quite unprofessional, if you ask me.

I've added those presets, 'cause I treat 'em as a fix to the poor release of NVIDIA's half baked remaster, that doesn't includes basic things, like setting graphics options below high, which is a dirty marketing trick, making people into buying RTX 4000 series. Besides, it's not the first time, that mod extending graphical options is added to the PCGW article, so I don't see any reason to have a problem with my edit. I'm reverting your change, until you give me a good reason to change it.

Mrtnptrs (talkcontribs)

Ok, honestly used "I think" not to be unprofessional, but to BE professional and not act like everything I say is absolute fact. On almost all pages general presets for settings, also settings below what the game offers, are generally removed thus as PCGW is about fixes and tweaks and not a settings guide. I also argumented that it should at least be added to the other information section, which you sadly did not do as you just reverted it. It simply has nothing to do with availability. Also suggested that maybe adding a table/fixbox with explanations of each changes that can be made to the config file, would be a good idea; to prevent users being only limited to your presets, but instead being able to really tweak it themselves. Otherwise they might actually get limited by your fix. Sadly you did not respond to this. Also this is a wiki, and even though Nvidia might have not provided lower settings on purpose (or for another reason or just named them weirdly), we should never let these suspicions influence our editing decisions. Also, I suggested we could discuss this on Discord, so many others can quickly join our discussion. Also, as you want to have better performance with your mod for other users, I'm frowning upon why you would then disable DLSS by default. Would automatically turn off on AMD/Intel hardware right? So, my proposal would overall be, because indeed the game is too heavy for older RT-hardware, to add this to the Other Information section with only explanations about the commands, what they do and to what they can be changed. So, thus to leave the presets out, so users can actually tweak the game themselves instead having to be reliant of magic presets. Would imagine something like a table. Would you be ok with that?

Mrtnptrs (talkcontribs)

Btw, most game pages on PCGW containing "potato-settings"-presets almost always do this wrongly and me and many others thus almost always remove those when we encounter them.

Patrxgt (talkcontribs)

"are generally removed thus as PCGW is about fixes and tweaks and not a settings guide" That's why I've added presets. Most of the people would treat that as a fix.

"I also argumented that it should at least be added to the other information section, which you sadly did not do as you just reverted it." And I gave you a reason, why I did that, but you just ignored it.

"It simply has nothing to do with availability" Making game playable on wider range of hardware has nothing to do with availability... HMM.

"Also suggested that maybe adding a table/fixbox with explanations of each changes that can be made to the config file, would be a good idea; to prevent users being only limited to your presets, but instead being able to really tweak it themselves." So you could delete it and say it's "wrongly" made? Besides, most of the people aren't too eager to mess with configs, 'cause not everybody is used to it. I wanted to give the simplest way for "PC noobs" to make thing poor remaster playable on their computers.

"we should never let these suspicions influence our editing decisions" And I didn't. I just showed people a way to play this game on something, that doesn't costs 1,599 dollars.

"Also, I suggested we could discuss this on Discord, so many others can quickly join our discussion." Been on PCGW Discord server, got banned, don't want to go back.

"I'm frowning upon why you would then disable DLSS by default." I didn't? DLSS is independent from graphics presets, as far, as I know.

Baronsmoki (talkcontribs)

If the config file is mentioned at all on the page, it should be in "Other Information", not "Availability".

Mrtnptrs (talkcontribs)

As there has been no answer on this remark from @Patrxgt and quite some editors agree with the statement from Baronsmoki on Discord, I'm moving it for now to the Other Information section. Awaits further testing from someone with an RTX card as when looking at the modded config files, 95% of all original lines were removed and more testing is needed to check if this doesn't have negative consequences.

Mrtnptrs (talkcontribs)

I think I've argumented these points already, have the feeling that not much of what I could say would change your mind and have the feeling you are not very eager to reach a compromise so asked a moderator for a second-opinion so we can quickly deal with this situation without an endless discussion :)

Mrtnptrs (talkcontribs)

Ok, maybe one thing: "I didn't? DLSS is independent from graphics presets, as far, as I know." Yeah, I see, could have sworn I previously saw this on the PCGW file page of the kim2091 mod, sorry for that then.

Warning: Hateful language

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Baronsmoki (talkcontribs)
Patrxgt (talkcontribs)

Jesus, really? Is there anything, that wouldn't offense someone? It wasn't even hateful, it was simple joke to one of people from the same Discord server.

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