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RaTcHeT302 (talkcontribs)

Where's the AppData info explained? I didn't see anything else other than the tooltip, the tooltip itself sucks on its own, it's really vague for someone who never did this. Is this stuff spread out over other pages? I wanted to make this clearer at least, or have the info be on the wiki so it's more easily to find on Google. I wish I had more control sometimes but, oh well.

Also I don't do this because it looks really ugly http://i.imgur.com/xGBjjwF.png I don't really agree with everything written on the editing guide too much, some of the stuff in there should be changed. The Steam forums are pretty much full of garbage and they have been abbandoned by Valve themselves anyway.

Marioysikax (talkcontribs)

OK honest mistake there, it was only explained in the tooltip and only the file explorer method. And yes, those are standard windows variables, so they are used with every single game page (except Metal Gear Rising which uses hard C:\ starting path). But you did make the edit seem like you wanted to explain only that specific games appdata opening.

Editing guide is there to provide standards and standards are prioritized so that everything would be cohesive. If you do have problem with how stuff are in editing guide, then demand the change to editing guide and sample article. I do not care does it look ugly to you, at that point it's your personal subjective matter and if everything would have simply "instructions" it would be hardcoded to the template itself.

Steam users forums are still open and active and because they were open waaay before steam community, for couple years old games they have much more useful conversation compared to steam community forums - some of the fixes are only found there. And again, steam forums are stated in both editing guide and sample article, so if you don't like it being there, then demand the change to standards instead of being subjective and changing it yourself.

RaTcHeT302 (talkcontribs)

I usually replace the Instructions header with a better name though, I just used that as a placeholder mostly.

RaTcHeT302 (talkcontribs)

I'm not even sure if you are still reading this but I usually replace the Instructions headers with better titles like these. http://i.imgur.com/Vtsrorg.png

Skip Intro looks prettier than Use replacement Intro_720p.wmv and there's also a certain clarity to it. It's not just about things being pretty, it's also about readability, stuff being pretty is just a bonus though, I don't usually explain my thought process as my posts would probably be never ending, I kinda stopped doing that just so that I could get to the point a bit quicker.

Also I do multiple editing passes over the pages I edit, so I often just kinda end up leaving everything a bit unfinished until I come back to it after a break.

PS: I'm really tired and my post is really half assed, I'm not even sure if the message is clear at all.

Marioysikax (talkcontribs)

(I can't even reply as mediawiki says there's change made, updates the page and removes my responce completely)

http://pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/PCGamingWiki:Editing_guide/Fixboxes_and_providing_instructions#The_Fixbox

"Skip intro" is already header of the section, so putting it into fixbox repeats said stuff. Fixboxes header should be fix explained in a nutshell so user gets to know what is being done, so in that case skipping intro requires replacing file, instead of launch parameter, config file editing or removing file. Again, this is explained in editing guide and sample article, which are standards and standards go over personal subjective matters. Of course to be even more cohesive, those should be "replace the file" or "edit configuration file" but that's small difference. That "Use replacement Intro_720p.wmv" was already in that page before I ever touched it.

I do admit that lately I have been simply putting stuff inside fixbox header without the steps, but this is mostly because of my time constrains and/or lack of knowledge/references (I do not personally have the specific problem), because some articles have fixes simply written out as text under header and they should always be inside fixbox. So having them inside fixbox is already step forward.

I know your editing style at this point and I know it's pretty hard to change habits in general, but just as a hint you should try using local text editor when editing stuff. Some of your edits go 100+, which not only gets really negative first reaction from anyone, but also makes it really hard to determine what has being changed (or in your case completely nuked because reasons). Opening one section or whole article in local text editor gives you time to edit it in peace and redo stuff as many times as you want and most likely article won't get touched at that if talking about few years old smaller title. If you leave stuff unfinished and go to eat, of course some may look the edits really funnily and try fixing them (like has happened couple times now).

RaTcHeT302 (talkcontribs)

I could just use the online editor but not save every two seconds so idk.


On the fix box thingy, I don't really put instructions into the header seeing as there's not much point to it, the user has to read the instructions below it anyway, so I just give it a more generic title, often I can't be bothered to come up with unique titles for all my fix boxes so I just pick Instructions, I tried using an external editor once but I ended up not getting as much done, and I don't mind when other wiki editors come in and edit my work anyway, I always doubt myself more than anyone else anyway.


When there are multiple fix boxes I do something like this though, otherwise I don't really bother explaining what the user needs to do in the fixbox title unless I need to make it clear that two solutions are different. http://i.imgur.com/AfNcqxb.png


I'm not really sure how to explain this though, if I had some examples I could just show you those and you'd see the idea behind it. http://i.imgur.com/RtNRijW.png

RaTcHeT302 (talkcontribs)
RaTcHeT302 (talkcontribs)

I suck at explaining what I do in words, it's easier for me to just show you the end result :v I'll try to post more examples instead of more text.

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