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Anonymous (talkcontribs)

It seems that memory leak was fixed in the first patch, at least on my rig the game started to work properly. Can somebody else confirm this, then maybe we can move it to "Issues fixed"?

RaTcHeT302 (talkcontribs)

The issues fixed section contains fixes for issues present in the game, not issues fixed by a developer patch. It should probably be removed entirely.

Sorry about the poor wording, but I am a bit tired.

Bagel (talkcontribs)

This article states that Rockstar Social Club is required for SP and MP. Does this imply that an online activation is required for single player? (I haven't bought the game, so I wouldn't know).

Garrett (talkcontribs)

Rockstar Social Club doubles as DRM so the game requires initial activation (see the system requirements).

RaTcHeT302 (talkcontribs)
RaTcHeT302 (talkcontribs)
RaTcHeT302 (talkcontribs)

I wouldn't install the driver just yet though, might be unstable.

RaTcHeT302 (talkcontribs)
Primey (talkcontribs)

Neat find. Would have came in handy if the patch was big though.

RaTcHeT302 (talkcontribs)

I hope they'll put up some patch notes, or something.

Protecting the GTA V page until release?

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RaTcHeT302 (talkcontribs)

Only editable by trusted editors and such?

RaTcHeT302 (talkcontribs)

I mean unless the mods want to block and edit out every crappy edit then...oh well I guess it's probably not that needed but I'm not even sure.

Suicide machine (talkcontribs)

I was purposing to somehow make the page editable for the "Trusted" group (those, who don't have to type in captcha when posting links), but I don't know if I have enough rights to do it and I don't want to break something, while soeb.... let's say, he "doesn't have enough time" (yup, that may be a lie, but I'm not going to blame him).

Blackbird (talkcontribs)

Wait a second you're telling there is a group that doesn't have to type these silly captchas every time link is added? Is that based on number of contributions, join date or something?

Anonymous (talkcontribs)

Not so much rights as much as access. I'll get around to it at some point, but I honestly see no reason to rush here. This is the first time we've actually had to protect a page in a while.

I've shortened the length of the protection period, it will end tomorrow at this time.

Mirh (talkcontribs)

Possibly using Denuvo DRM.
Let's see if it will be the good time paying users will be the favoured ones.

There's already a kind of denial, though this seems even less reliable than the original source
Ok, it was a hoax

RaTcHeT302 (talkcontribs)
Mirh (talkcontribs)

Stating they are uncrackable is bold.. Though I'm suprised that's still the case.
Besides, if you hadn't the time to read the entire steam discussions thread, the link between the DRM and bad game performance has not been proved, rather it seems more like one of the usual PhysX problems..

RaTcHeT302 (talkcontribs)

I already know most details, I just linked that just in case. And they never said it was uncrackable, it's simply ment to delay pirates just so that the game can sell a bit more on release.

Anonymous (talkcontribs)

I don't know about others, but if there's one thing that keeps me away from a game for a lifetime, it's DRM. Doesn't matter how cheap they might push it one day, just no.

Mirh (talkcontribs)

Well, besides philosophical reason, not all DRMs come to harm.. (hardware-based are almost always a pain in the neck on linux/wine though)

Anonymous (talkcontribs)

I can't think of a single example of DRM that somehow improved the experience though. I do have quite a few games still laying around that sadly refuse to work, because of things like SecuROM and SafeDisc. Though for me, it is largely ideological, even if I let some things slide for my own enjoyment.

Mirh (talkcontribs)

A DRM is an additional software layer to protect games (so, it's purpose is not to improve your life).
And an additional layer of software is a an additional source of problems by definition.
Though, nothing technically prevent a DRM from being stable and compatible..
GOG FTW

Requirement of a Social Club account

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Yesorno (talkcontribs)

If it hasn't been confirmed, why is it on the wiki page? Since when do wikis assume things?

Blackbird (talkcontribs)

There is no need to confirm anything. GTAIV PC needs it for MP. Max Payne 3 PC needs it for MP. GTAV on consoles needs it for MP. It's completely obvious PC version will use it as well especially when the iFruit app for iOS/Android which uses Social Club login has unused files for PC version.

Alexrd (talkcontribs)

Still, it's all an assumption until Rockstar confirms it and a Wiki doesn't work by assumptions.

Anonymous (talkcontribs)

Then why not take the path of least resistance and edit out the assumptions on the Grand Theft Auto 5 wiki page? This whole wiki is publicly-editable.

Alexrd (talkcontribs)

To prevent an edit war?

Anonymous (talkcontribs)

No, because, like Yesorno said, a Wiki doesn't work by assumptions - and this article, as far as he and you seem concerned, has some assumptions in it.

Of course, that likely would start a flame war as you and others have pointed out, but such a change would likely be quickly undone by the moderators as, if the statement made by Pridit, one of PCGamingWiki's moderators, is any indication, the moderators find the statement in question to not be an assumption. Unless you or Yesorno want to appeal to the site owner/administrator, continuing your argumentation will likely prove futile.

EDIT: Apologizes to Alexrd for incorrect association of opinion.

Blackbird (talkcontribs)

Yeah it's such a assumption they'll use their own MP system like they always did. I'm sure they'll switch to something else for the PC version just because.

Pridit (talkcontribs)

It's not an assumption, it's based on previous titles and various leaks from their Social Club website that has the inclusion of PC. For the sake of argument, it stays until it's confirmed otherwise since I've seen too much to support the likelihood of the requirement and nothing in the way of not. I've added a [citation needed] tag on it which means it does need a reference, and the second one is available it will be added. If you can provide anything that may suggest this will not be the case, I'm happy for you to state as such and use it as grounds for removal. But right now, there's just too much that hints towards it and the only thing we're missing is a confirmation which shouldn't be far off.

Alexrd (talkcontribs)

Yes, it is an assumption (based on past games) until it's confirmed. And for the sake of accuracy, it should be removed until it's confirmed (like it's done for every other similar information). And the [citation needed] tag doesn't mean it doesn't need a reference, in fact, it means a reference is needed to prove it. Since there is none (officially), it continues to be speculation.

Marioysikax (talkcontribs)

Even if it's almost certain they will use it there isn't any confirmation about it and they could easily still drop it or make it optional. However I would still leave it as it is reason Pridit said that it has been hinted everywhere and all rockstar games have been using social club for quite while, including console versions where you should be able to import progress and how would you do it other way than social club? Another reason being it would definitly start edit war.

[citation needed] is good in this case as it does hint for readers that it isn't fully confirmed by any source as of yet even if it isn't exaclty right way to use CN.

Pridit (talkcontribs)

I know the applicable use of the citation needed tag thanks, re-read what I said. It does need a reference and as soon as one is available it will be stated unless there is anything at all to suggest it will not use RSC. This is partly to prevent an edit war, and considering the history, leaked information and the fact the console version requires RSC it's more than likely they will use it. Controversial statements like these are allowed, even if not proved at this juncture, if they have warrant to be there so that we can adequately inform readers. It's not added without any basis what so ever, and is not pure speculation, so it stays.

Yesorno (talkcontribs)

I agree with the others. If there's no source, then it's not a fact. It's an assumption.

PlayaOfGames (talkcontribs)

This really you people are arguing if it will use rockstar social club the answer is yes all rockstar games and future games are using it hell the answers in the faq on steam forums of gta 5.


Q: Will there be Games for Windows Live(GFWL) like GTA IV? A: There will not be GFWL as it is only continuing support for existing content. GTA V will be integrated with Rockstar Social Club, a great tool for tracking stats, achievements, rewards, Crews, and much more.

Marioysikax (talkcontribs)

This talk was before there were FAQ available. I'll remove [citation needed] from the page.

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